News Corp: Real Aussie blokes in hi-viz love unemployment

The Global Times phoned. They want their laughably ridiculous propaganda back.

UPDATE: Scotty surrenders to urban luvvies, Rupert Murdoch, green extremists and China:

Scott Morrison has issued a rallying cry for the nation to address the challenge of climate change “together”, saying reducing emissions is now a question of “how, not if”.

Ahead of critical talks with Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce to hash out a net-zero by 2050 deal, the Prime Minister said there were “big opportunities” for regional and rural Australia.

“Addressing climate change is a challenge that we must do together. As Prime Minister, it is my job to bring people together on dealing with this big change. The world is moving into a new energy economy. We all know that,” Mr Morrison said on Monday morning.

“My government is committed to ensuring that rural and regional Australia transitions to this new energy economy in the future stronger, with their jobs and communities intact and they can look forward with confidence and plan for the future with confidence,” he said.

“We’ve got to come together on this issue. My government will come together on this issue. The country will come together on issue and we will tackle the challenges, just like we have tackled those challenges before this.”

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70 Responses to News Corp: Real Aussie blokes in hi-viz love unemployment

  1. Rex Anger says:

    Why have essentially all public companies disavowed any thought about building coal fired power stations.

    Errr… Because stooges like you go full Zampolit Steve and scream at them in autistic rage in shareholder meetings, media soundbites and from the sidelines alike, until they go quiet and meekly agree to comply with your leftwit edicts about what they should be doing?

  2. Boambee John says:

    Non Compos Mentis

    Neither solar nor wind farms are not all congregated together so saying if the sun dies not shine or the wind does not blow is very stupid.

    Speaking of very stupid, the time difference between Sydney and Perth is three hours. Since even mid-summer nights in Australia are longer than three hours (ignoring the weakness of the sun before sunset/after sunrise), then there are extended periods in Australia when the sun does not shine anywhere. But don’t let that minor reality affect your stupidity.

    Batteries can do the work if they are large enough and if the number increases.

    A couple of very big “ifs” there. Perhaps you can tell us how many batteries of what total capacity are needed to cover the dark hours of even a summer night, much less a winter one?

    The best by a mile is a price on carbon which takes into account the negative externalities ( another subject you clearly have no idea about.)

    Perhaps, but the negative externalities of solar, wind and batteries also need to be taken into account, or aren’t you aware of them? You seem to demonstrate little understanding of them.

    Your understanding of the operation of the Tesla battery is less than minimal.

  3. Not Trampis says:

    hate to tell you this but WA is not part of the national grid. what was that about stupidity. At least have some idea of the subject.

    Wow the sun doesn’t shine at all somewhere in Australia. Where is that and do they have solar farms.

    No big ifs at all quite a lot of orders for large batteries.
    your examples were not externalities old son. do try.

    If coal fired power stations made economic sense then they would be being built.
    They do not. they take 8 years to build, they have to be on 24 hours a day and their costs are over twice that of renewables and of course their units break down a lot.

    On the other hand as I have shown net zero emissions is very good for the economy as two organizations have shown. Very good for the regions.

    A shame the luddites do not understand this

  4. Rex Anger says:

    hate to tell you this but WA is not part of the national grid

    Thank heavens for that. It has insulated us from the worst excesses of Homerian ecofascist stupidity thus far- No interconnectors to hide behind when the coal stations are dynamited and the much-vaunted solar panels and wind turbines fail to meet demand.

    Not that this was much of a deflection from your invincible, ideological gnorance to start with, Paxton…

  5. Rex Anger says:

    If coal fired power stations made economic sense then they would be being built.

    Worldwide Paxton, this is very much the case. Even in greener-than-the-greenest-green-grass-of-a-greenist-Green-voter, Germany. Who also now relies so heavily on imported Russian gas and oil to keep her shills in the electricity and heat and luxury motor cars they so love and cherish.

    In fact, the invincible ignorance, craven bedwetting and dictatorial stupidity of such stooges as yourself at all levels of our society is the only thing that makes it unviable here.

    Red tape, green tape, endless taxpayer-funded lawfare and propaganda campaigns and the prospect of having all your permissions arbitrarily ripped up and your project halted on the spot at any point in the process (up to and including the point of completion) means that no invidiual will risk it.

    Far simpler to tax-eat and be one of Government’s ‘picked’ winners. Hence the BS about solar panels and power-supplying cables to Singapore. Not a single nano-watt of excess, saleable power will be generated. But the corporate welfare churn will be immense and highly enriching to the anointed ones.

    Do you see a single, red cent of or from any of the clean, green beneficiaires of your shilling, Homer Paxton? If not, your carry-on is even more incomprehensibly moronic.

  6. Boambee John says:

    Non Compos Mentis

    hate to tell you this but WA is not part of the national grid. what was that about stupidity. At least have some idea of the subject.

    Perhaps you should have thought of that before babbling on about solar and wind farms everywhere to provide distributed power to all?

    Wow the sun doesn’t shine at all somewhere in Australia. Where is that and do they have solar farms.

    Do try to improve your pitiful reading comprehension. The reference was to nights, which are longer than the time gap across the nation, meaning that there are times that solar farms are useless, because it is dark across the entire nation (regardless of any interconnectors that you might dream about).

    No big ifs at all quite a lot of orders for large batteries.

    Nice attempted deflection. The question wasn’t about orders for batteries, but about the required scale. You clearly have no idea.

    your examples were not externalities old son. do try.

    I didn’t give any examples, I simply drew your attention to their existence. Do you deny, absolutely and completely, that Ruinables have no negative externalities? Gutsy call.

    On the other hand as I have shown net zero emissions is very good for the economy as two organizations have shown. Very good for the regions.

    You and they have shown no such thing.

    If coal fired power stations made economic sense then they would be being built.

    There are many being built around the world right now. Try not to demonstrate your gross ignorance with every sentence.

  7. Not Trampis says:

    let us clear up the ignorance.
    for a start a person who has no idea of the difference between wholesale and retail markets, doesn’t understand what negative externalities are and does not know what is involved in the national energy market might try and find out but no.
    you said the sun does not shine and the wind does not blow. given that neither solar not wind farms are all at the same place such an observation is startlingly ignorant.

    There are two answers to night which clearly you did not specify. The first is that roof top solar has moved the demand for energy to a lot later and reduced it.
    The Second is wind does not need the sun. Indeed it is complementary to solar power.

    You clearly do not know what has been ordered in terms of batteries.

    Yes you did give alleged examples of negative externalities . anyone can go and read that rubbish.

    both Access Economics and the BCA have produced papers on how net zero emissions affects the economy going forward. I actually citied both of them.

    We are talking about Australia. There are no plans to build any for the very reasons I have stated. Indeed we have a comparative advantage in renewables. They take 8 years to build, they are more than twice the cost of renewables , units break down regularly. The AEMO have a report on their reliability.

    I do enjoy educating the uneducated. Only problem here is they do not understand as has been shown each time.

  8. Boambee John says:

    Non Compos Mentis

    I am astonished that one as stupid as you manages to remember to breathe.

    you said the sun does not shine and the wind does not blow.

    Reading comprehension fail. I said WHEN the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow. Your stupidity is invincible.

    You clearly do not know what has been ordered in terms of batteries.

    And you clearly have absolutely NO idea of the scale of the requirement for batteries to cover WHEN the sun isn’t shining and the wind isn’t blowing.

    The rest of your crap is a repeat of your already failed arguments, not worthy of further response.

  9. Rex Anger says:

    both Access Economics and the BCA have produced papers on how net zero emissions affects the economy going forward.

    That’s nice. GIGO consultancy pays the bills as thoroughly as due diligence. And they are as equally ignorable as each other, depending on your policy priorities.

    Nice appeal to (unrecognised) ‘authority’ though, Homer…

  10. rosie says:

    Someone told me about a separated couple in a bit of dispute, ev left in garage uncharged.
    12 thousand dollars, ouch.

  11. JC says:

    let us clear up the ignorance.

    You’re not posting again? Good.

    for a start a person who has no idea of the difference between wholesale and retail markets, doesn’t understand what negative externalities are and does not know what is involved in the national energy market might try and find out but no.

    Explain the relevance of wholesale and retail and what the hell do externalities have to do with anything you raised. You just inserted this in to pretend you know something when it’s as meaningful and saying the dog barking next door is a tree.

    you said the sun does not shine and the wind does not blow. given that neither solar not wind farms are all at the same place such an observation is startlingly ignorant.

    The UK for the past 12 months has experienced materially less wind that other years, forcing them to run their coal stations to make up the difference. Renew balls are diffuse and intermittent and you can’t possibly run an industrial civilization with such limitations. At least , halfway smart wouldn’t, but of course you would.

    There are two answers to night which clearly you did not specify. The first is that roof top solar has moved the demand for energy to a lot later and reduced it.

    I have absolutely no idea what you’re trying to say.

    The Second is wind does not need the sun. Indeed it is complementary to solar power.

    Wind is a solar derivative, you complete idiot.

    You clearly do not know what has been ordered in terms of batteries.

    A three pack EverReady?

    both Access Economics and the BCA have produced papers on how net zero emissions affects the economy going forward. I actually citied both of them.

    Big deal. If they’re also suggesting run and economy on renew-balls all of you need to be placed under care in a retards asylum.

    We are talking about Australia.

    No doubt.

    There are no plans to build any for the very reasons I have stated. Indeed we have a comparative advantage in renewables.

    To whom? How the hell do you know this?

    Homer, remain silent.

  12. Boambee John says:

    JC

    Homer, remain silent.

    And be (rightly) thought a fool, rather than posting rubbish and proving that you are.

  13. Not Trampis says:

    JC, do not post if you have no idea of what is being talked about please.

    UK problems are mainly about gas which provides around 70 odd % of their energy needs old son.
    Of course you have no idea.
    wow wind power can only work when the sun is out.
    Again no idea of knowing what is on order. Ever read the AEMO webs site? thought not.

    Sensational argument against the two publications.

    Do keep up. If the private sector has plans they have to announce such plans. No company has.
    Any investor knows this. There is also the AEMO roadmap ahead which shows how energy will go in the years ahead.

    another example of the profound ignorance amongst the deplorables. The worst thing is they pride themselves on it and abuse others in the process.

    It is all very sad. A bit like Monty Python’s black knight

    however just to help out again in terms of energy we have quite a few pumped hydro and of course Snowy 2.0 the biggest of them all and then we have quite few gas plants. They have the advantage over coal in that they do not take 30 minutes to start.

  14. Boambee John says:

    Non Compos Mentis

    wow wind power can only work when the sun is out

    Have you caught up with the latest fashion in Gerbil Worming “research”? Global Stilling, the fantasy that Gerbil Worming is causing the winds to slow, thus causing the lack of wind that has reduced the output from European wind farms. The lack of wind is causing the increased dependence on gas. But you keep babbling on about wind (and solar) being the final solution.

    Again no idea of knowing what is on order.

    You are so stuuuupid. What is on order is a different matter to the ultimate requirement if batteries are to provide a comprehensive back up to unreliable wind and solar, and you are too frightened to research that.

    however just to help out again in terms of energy we have quite a few pumped hydro

    Would it be too much for you to detail their total capacity (don’t forget to allow for friction losses both ways)?

    and of course Snowy 2.0

    Sometime in the indeterminate future. It would be quicker to build a nuclear plant, and almost certainly cheaper.

    quite few gas plants

    Freudian slip there. “quite few” is a good indication of their limited capacity. We will need to build quite few more as coal phases out, and also get actively into gas exploration and development (including fracking). That is, unless you think we should rely on Putin’s Russia, as Europe now has to.

    You really are completely incapable of holistic thought. But then again, you are an idiot, and thought requires brains.

  15. Not Trampis says:

    okay the man who has mixes up wholesale or retail markets , is clueless on what negative externalities now thinks the wind does not occur at night. sorry chum but it does. That is why it is a complement to solar power

    no Europe’s problems are too much of their eggs in the gas basket and it has risen substantially. They of course do not have our advantages of solar.

    coal is the most UNRELIABLE power source and the only reason AEMO ever worries about black outs in the summer.

    Read what AEMO lazybones. They have to work out how the demand and supply will work out over time and at present they are not worried.

    Snowy 2.0 is on target last time I saw and sure isn’t going to take 15 years to be in operation.- like a Nuke plant would
    gas stations are only as a back up because they are easy to start if needed.

    Just to help your education yet again
    1) Batteries are very economic at the wholesale level. costs are low to build and getting lower and they are very profitable. On the other hand thus far they are not economic at the retail level but this is likely to change over the next few years.

    2) Roof top solar has changed demand for electricity. It is no longer between 12-2 but 6-8. The demand is lower as well. When batteries become economic then this will change again.

    So the deplorables want unreliable and expensive coal power and want to reduce growth by not have net zero emissions by 2050.
    Dear dear me.

  16. Boambee John says:

    Non Compos Mentis

    now thinks the wind does not occur at night

    More comprehension failure. Try harder to read what was written, not what you imagined.

    no Europe’s problems are too much of their eggs in the gas basket and it has risen substantially.

    Fantasy.

    coal is the most UNRELIABLE power source and the only reason AEMO ever worries about blackouts in the summer.

    Yesss, I clearly remember all those summer blackouts. Idiot. At least make your lies believable.

    The rest is your usual fevered fantasies.

  17. Rex Anger says:

    coal is the most UNRELIABLE power source

    The stooge does know that the electrons he just wasted on this statement were provided to him courtesy of that appallingly ‘unreliable’ baseload power, correct?

  18. Boambee John says:

    Rex A

    You should not assume that the idiot knows anything.

  19. Tel says:

    coal is the most UNRELIABLE power source and the only reason AEMO ever worries about black outs in the summer.

    Your comedy routine could improve if you told more than one joke.

    Remember that from approx 1970 to 2000 the entire East Coast of Australia ran on mostly coal power plus a bit of hydro and never never saw a statewide total blackout like what SA got hit with soon after applying dynamite to Playfield. Long before any wind and solar subsidy farms and it all ran like clockwork.

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