The Churchill of Our Time

They are what they are.”

– During an interview with Bret Baier, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky brushes aside Nazi Azov Battalion atrocities

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15 Responses to The Churchill of Our Time

  1. jupes says:

    Australia is on the side of the Nazis. Arming them in fact. Meanwhile, we are spending $40 million in order to put 19 of our best war fighters in jail for murder.

    Go back even just 10 years and who could have predicted just how immoral our country would become on just about every issue?

  2. Lee says:

    Talking of Churchill and Nazis, I am reminded of this quote of his:
    “if Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons.”

  3. NoFixedAddress says:

    jupes says:
    4 April, 2022 at 2:22 pm

    Australia is on the side of the Nazis. Arming them in fact. Meanwhile, we are spending $40 million in order to put 19 of our best war fighters in jail for murder.

    Go back even just 10 years and who could have predicted just how immoral our country would become on just about every issue?

    plus infinity for all of what Jupes said.

  4. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    “Our Nazis are better Nazis than their Nazis! Also our Chechens and Syrians are better than their Chechens and Syrians.”

    Been going on in those parts for centuries.

  5. jupes says:

    Been going on in those parts for centuries.

    No doubt. However the point is what is going on in Australia. Here we have ASIO spending 40% of their CT budget on “right wing” extremists – aka garage Nazis – (who are most likely a figment of their imagination), while the same government is arming a foreign army that has real Nazis as part of their order of battle.

    We live in clown world.

  6. twostix says:

    A lot of these ‘Nazi’s’ are US backed groups that have been operating with US State Dept cover, training and funding since 1946 and are stuck in a sort of time-warp. Being the only groups with the maniac attitude to survive and ability to maintain militia’s and operate inside the USSR after WW2 without collapsing.

  7. twostix says:

    No doubt. However the point is what is going on in Australia. Here we have ASIO spending 40% of their CT budget on “right wing” extremists – aka garage Nazis – (who are most likely a figment of their imagination), while the same government is arming a foreign army that has real Nazis as part of their order of battle.

    A few years ago ASIO and their ABC were going on about Australian “right wing extremists” going over and fighting in Ukraine for the militias.

    It’s the gayest time to be alive ever.

  8. Tel says:

    This is more important than ever with the recent executions in Bucha that happened approx 2nd April … if our side were not such incorrigible liars it would be easy to take it at face value … but in 2022 we first disbelieve everything and then check what real evidence might be available, if any.

    It would be a better fit to past patterns, if the Azov Battalion enforcers were rounding up and executing collaborators in Bucha, as a way of maintaining loyalty. Of course I don’t know 100% what happened there, but there have been a number of calls coming from the Ukrainian side demanding harsh treatment of POW’s, and there is evidence that all Russian troops were already gone by 31st March, with no mention of any bodies in the street at that time.

    As Dave Smith says at the start of every one of his podcast episodes, “If you want to know who America’s next enemy is, look at who we are funding right now.” Clearly the Azov Battalion will quickly be converted into “bad guys” when the time comes that they are no longer useful, and then golly we will need even bigger budgets to clean up that mess. The same thing reliably has happened across the Middle East, and most of Central America. It’s weird the way hardly any American citizens notice these switchbacks, but presumably the conclusion is that most of them don’t really care.

  9. C.L. says:

    A simple alternative explanation is that civilians – armed by Zelensky – were killed in the fighting (see Newsweek magazine link in the post).

    The most suspicious thing about this war is the total absence of footage of anything, alleged ‘war crimes’ and all. In this day and age, you can’t rob the money from a blind beggar’s hat without being filmed by somebody with a phone.

    According to the United Nations, 1,430 civilians have been killed in the war so far. This is far fewer than the US and the UK killed in Iraq in a week.

  10. Petros says:

    That’s the big problem, Tel. The Yanks don’t care because it does not come back and affect them directly. It all happens in far off lands. A warped version of Christianity over in the US.

  11. Chris M says:

    A warped version of Christianity over in the US.

    The US govt is not Christian neither does the country claim to be operating on any form of Christian principles (which goes without saying it is clearly not and trending the opposite).

  12. Tel says:

    … neither does the country claim to be operating on any form of Christian principles …

    Pretty sure Joe Biden has claimed to be Christian on a number of occasions.

    That’s a claim that I would never make.

  13. Chris M says:

    Tel: info on Bucha, sounds legit and makes sense. Grim.

  14. Tel says:

    Chris: thanks I read that … and it describes killings in early to mid March, during the period while the Russians occupied the area. Those poor people would have been dead and buried by April.

    This makes me think the second round of killings in early April were not perpetrated by Russians, because the reports (and photos) indicated reasonably fresh bodies. That seems a lot like a retaliation which must have happened after the Russians left.

    Additional confusion comes from the Ukrainians digging up some graves and discovering more bodies (certainly not fresh) probably killed some time earlier by Russians, but in those cases it will generally give the location where the dug-up bodies were found. I think these might have been people killed early during the Russian invasion. As to how many were genuine innocent civilians, and how many were militia deputized and armed by Zelensky … that’s very hard to say. For example, there’s some evidence the Russians were killing town Mayors but you would think the military value of a Mayor is quite low … but on the other hand, in Ukraine there have been cases where organized towns have put up quite respectable resistance, indicating the Mayor would be some significant leadership figure.

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