The Trite Stuff

It was just, like, obviously you cheated, or you copied or the lecturer just likes you because you’re the girl in the class and they’re giving you special consideration… There still will be some backlash but I’m, like, get over it, guys — there will always be the question: you got there because of your gender or something like that. And I’m, like, ‘Yeah, no, I didn’t, I know what I did and I know what I achieved’.”

Space Commander Catherine Roberts tells podcast of bullying she endured after first enlisting in the ADF.

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16 Responses to The Trite Stuff

  1. Entropy says:

    My boss is where she is because of her gender.
    It can’t be for competence, skill or knowledge, because she doesn’t possess any of those and frankly I am getting sick of fixing up the mess. Every risk is magnified and sent off to a consultant to come up with a masterful, time consuming and expensive plan. Actually pretty much everything is sent off to a consultant, the key strategy of the content free. Can’t have her underlings showing her up for clearly knowing stuff she doesn’t.

    You can also get men like that of course. They usually have political connections, aligned with the party in power. At least they can use those connections to get something done every now and again with a little prompting. My current boss doesn’t even have that.

  2. Entropy says:

    I will add that my previous boss, also a woman, did know her stuff and was highly competent. In fact she took longer to be a boss only because at the time political connections to the right party dominated at the time.

    The difference of course makes the appointment of the current one even more shameful.

  3. Tel says:

    Isn’t that the whole reason why discrimination is bad? Because once you have a system of boosting certain people for political reasons, then ever after that no one believes in genuine merit anymore. Indeed, cynical as I am I would say the Socialists intended it to be that way … because they hate the idea of anyone being promoted for merit … loyalty is the only thing that matters to those guys.

    Nowhere is control more illusory than in the awarding of honors, whose very meaning and effect depend upon other people’s opinions. Preferential honors for members of particular groups can easily render suspect not only those particular honors but also honors fully merited and awarded after free and open competition. If one-fifth of the honors received by preferred groups are awarded under double standards, the other four-fifths are almost certain to fall under a cloud of suspicion as well, if only because some of those who lost out in the competition would prefer to believe that they were not bested fairly. It is by no means clear that more real honors—which are ultimately other people’s opinions—will come to a group preferentially given awards. Preferential honors can in practice mean a moratorium on recognition of the group’s achievements, which can be confounded with patronage or pay-offs. This need not inevitably be so. The point is that the matter is out of the control of those who decide award policy, and in the hands of others observing the outcomes and deciding what to make of them.

  4. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Of course it is completely impossible that every single Duntroon cadet has been bullied. The place has been notorious. On the other hand war is heck, as someone once said, and hardening up is a part of the training for it. Maybe space wars will be more polite though.

  5. Wyndham Dix says:


    Egoism was and is ever thus.

  6. cuckoo says:

    I’m, like, get over it, guys… And I’m, like, ‘Yeah, no, I didn’t, I know what I did and I know what I achieved’.”

    Why is a woman of apparently mature years speaking like a teenage girl?

  7. cuckoo says:

    Future space commander: “And I’m, like, open the pod bay doors Hal, and he’s like yeah nah can’t do that Dave, and I’m like well derr, without my space helmet…”

  8. Chris M says:

    Articulate chick! She like maybe talked her way into it haha?

  9. C.L. says:

    “And I’m, like, open the pod bay doors Hal, and he’s like yeah nah can’t do that Dave, and I’m like well derr, without my space helmet…”


  10. Shy Ted says:

    “To boldly go where… but not if there’s any bullies.”

  11. Morsie says:

    That is the way everyone under 5o talks nowadays.

  12. Morsie says:

    Everyone under 50 talks like that now.I first struck the dreaded “like” in new lawyers in about 1990

  13. Lee says:

    One of my pet peeves, along with those who say “yeah, no” (is that yes or no?), is the habit of some people in the last thirty years or so who say “he (or she) goes” instead of “he says” or “he said”.

  14. Lee says:

    On the other hand war is heck, as someone once said …

    General William Tecumseh Sherman.

  15. Pommy Al says:

    Smacks of pre-emptive arse-covering.
    When I fuck up it’s because of all the bullying I had to endure.
    Suck it up princess.

  16. “She goes, she goes, she goes…she just went!”

    Blame Maryanne Fahey. 🙂

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