The Ghost Who Won’t Walk

Will the PM rally genuine Liberals to the cause and heed this Daily Telegraph poll? Of course not.
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24 Responses to The Ghost Who Won’t Walk

  1. Not Trampis says:

    Actually he did not advocate voting for anyone.
    The ‘teal’ independents merely show the Liberal party losing small l liberal voters.

  2. struth says:

    If the Liberal party are not dead to you now, why not?
    Most of the party are left of Turnbull…..yes I know, you thought that couldn’t be possible.
    Criminals all.

  3. jupes says:

    I think the Liberals and Turnbull deserve each other. Long may he undermine them and long may they continue their craven tolerance of him.

  4. Lee says:

    I have to wonder how long the Libs (state and federally) can just go along as they have been for the past several years before it is destroyed as the irrelevant left wing party it is now, and which doesn’t give a stuff for its conservative base and takes it for granted?

    I don’t know about N.S.W., but the Libs are a lost cause in Victoria, far more enthusiastic about attacking their own (e.g. Bernie Finn) than Dictator Dan.
    Hmm, sounds like Scummo.

  5. Cassie of Sydney says:

    So in news just in, it appears that the Victorian Liberals have now deemed prayer and free speech to be forbidden, and if you engage in either…..watch out.

    “Outspoken Victorian Liberal MP Bernie Finn, pictured above, has resigned from his role in the Upper House just days after posting controversial anti-abortion comments on social media.

    In a letter sent to Liberal MPs on Monday evening, the Member for Western Metropolitan Region announced his resignation as Opposition Whip “effective immediately”.
    Mr Finn accused the Liberal Party of disloyalty after members of his own party, including Opposition Leader Matthew Guy, lashed him for his controversial comments.

    His resignation comes amid speculation his days at Spring Street could be numbered.

    “For the past three and a half years, I have loyally served the Parliamentary Liberal Party as Opposition Whip in the Legislative Council. Sadly, that loyalty has not been returned,” his letter stated.

    “For many months, I have been aware of separate moves by the Parliamentary leader and the leader in the Upper House to remove me at this coming round of preselections.

    “I thought this part of the ‘game’ and continued on serving the party. Best these things be kept behind closed doors, I thought.

    “Then, last Friday, the leader publicly attacked me at a media conference, issuing a threat to boot. This was the last straw – particularly when his bile-filled attack was on a policy stand that he as has long assured me he supports!!

    “This latest outrage makes my continued role untenable. Enough!

    “I hereby tender my resignation as Opposition Whip in the Legislative Council, effective immediately.”

    Mr Finn posted last week posted on Facebook he was “praying” for abortion to “come here soon” and “killing babies is criminal”.

    Following a Liberal Party meeting on Tuesday morning, Mr Guy said no decision had been made about Mr Finn’s future in the Party.

    Mr Guy would not say if Mr Finn should be booted from the Party, adding his views on Mr Finn’s comments were already known

    Please tell me why Victorians should vote for a Labor lite party?

  6. twostix says:

    The issue is far more fundamental than party. It’s a matter of class. The north shore “liberal” elite as a class have wholly adopted the values and mores of the new globalist, silicon valley / EU / democrat technocrat class. From tranny rights to banning cars, net zero, tightly integrated global economy, mass immigration, etc, etc. This puts them at complete and utter odds with the old Howard voting “conservative” suburbanites and is what you see manifesting with all of this stuff.

    Morrison and co are trying to bridge a class chasm that gets wider and wider by the year. Turnbull’s “teal” independents are the formation of a new party that represents them.

  7. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “It’s a matter of class. “

    Yep.

  8. Lee says:

    Please tell me why Victorians should vote for a Labor lite party?

    True, Cassie, but even the thought of the current corrupt, amoral, hypocritical, incompetent, CCP-toadying incumbent in Victoria getting in for another four years is almost more than I can stand.

  9. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis

    Actually he did not advocate voting for anyone.
    The ‘teal’ independents merely show the Liberal party losing small l liberal voters.

    Small l liberal voters? Strange way to say so-called “progressive” leftists.

  10. Buccaneer says:

    Turnbull and his acolytes don’t belong in the liberal party. If they did, he wouldn’t have tried to rebrand it when he was leader and would not be advocating for independents now. Most of the membership don’t follow them as witnessed by the attempts to subvert party processes in NSW. If they did then Zimmerman et al would not have needed to avoid a preselection. Like the ALP, they constantly abuse the rules and gaslight people as to their source of power. Then shamelessly, the usual msm collaborators run dead on the stories.

  11. Petros says:

    So is it true that the Libs owe Turdbull money and that they can’t expel him? Presumably it was the money he spent at his election.

  12. twostix says:

    Turnbull and his acolytes don’t belong in the liberal party.

    I think they are the liberal party, by and large, they fund it and build the networks and run the events and it’s their party and has been for a long time.

    A liberal party without them would look something like the UAP, a rag tag bunch of amateur suburban people with absolutely no idea of how to put together a network event, let alone a national party let alone a society.

    The problem is 1990-2020 suburban mums and dads completely forgot how to do politics and even worse, believed that aside from turning up to vote and read news.com.au, they don’t have to do politics at all, nor even maintain a networked society. They were happy to outsource politics (and society) to what they regarded as a benevolent elite that ran the liberal party and society as long as that elite provided them cheap (increasingly nasty) material comforts and pleasure that they could enjoy in the atomised hyper individual – soon to become prison cell – privacy of their homes.

  13. Roger W says:

    I’m looking at an LDP leaflet now.
    It is what you would have expected to receive from the Liberals some 20 or so years ago.
    It is the Liberal Party that has moved left, not it’s supporters, who now have to look elsewhere.

  14. Buccaneer says:

    What actually happened is Alex Hawke split the Liberal party’s conservative faction that sponsored the Howard government and has traded conservatism for power in the form of the Morrison government. That is why Hawke blew up the preselection process for this election in NSW, to entrench his and the left factions power. Without that happening, Zimmerman, Hawke and Ley would have been toast and Morrison exposed as a leader without enough support in the party room. Deves also would not have been preselected along with a host of others. Perrottet went along with this as he was in jeopardy with a state mp trying to get preselected for Hughes. Had that occurred it would have triggered a By election with his government likely falling. It is this fight for power that is the problem, not so much the members of the liberal party. For a second conservative force to actually be a threat to the libs, they will need to bring more of the conservative base of that membership across. Should they do this the liberal party would likely disappear fairly quickly, as the other 2 factions are very light on for actual member supporters that are not sponsored in some way.

  15. C.L. says:

    I’m looking at an LDP leaflet now.
    It is what you would have expected to receive from the Liberals some 20 or so years ago.
    It is the Liberal Party that has moved left, not it’s supporters, who now have to look elsewhere.

    Definitely this.

  16. C.L. says:

    Palmer is apparently doing staggeringly well in some Victorian and Queensland ‘burbs.

  17. Petros says:

    How UAP looks worse than the LNP is beyond me.

  18. local oaf says:

    Who cares if they expel him, the Liberal party no longer exists.

  19. Not Trampis says:

    Alas people do not seem to understand. Teal independents can only succeed because most liberal voters are small l liberals . We already have two independents because of this.
    big C conservatives are not even conservative either. A conservative would support a federal ICAC.

  20. jupes says:

    It is this fight for power that is the problem, not so much the members of the liberal party.

    No. It is the members of the Liberal Party who are the problem. As it stands, they are members of a hard-left political party. Whether they supported that change, or didn’t fight hard enough to stop it, is now irrelevant.

    The Liberal Party is no place for a conservative.

  21. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis

    Alas people do not seem to understand. Teal independents can only succeed because most liberal voters are small l liberals . We already have two independents because of this.

    Stupid even by your low standards.

    Labor runs dead in the electorates being contested by the Teal wood ducks. Potential Labor voters join lefty greens in the ex-Liberal Party and the Teals to beat the current Liberals (Teals do not contest Labor held seats – funny, that).

  22. Buccaneer says:

    There are plenty of unhappy liberal party members, the challenge for UAP, Phon and LDP is to attract them and keep them. We will find out shortly if that is happening. Morrison has certainly set the scene for that to go down. I’m not convinced it is happening, I suspect folks will largely consider the precipice and go back to one of the majors like a dog returning to its own vomit.

  23. Lee says:

    It is the Liberal Party that has moved left, not it’s supporters, who now have to look elsewhere.

    Absolutely.
    It is significantly further to the left than the Hawke/Keating governments, and to a noticeable extent even the KRudd/Gillard governments.
    Even Gillard was opposed to same sex marriage when PM, and arguably more conservative on some issues than Scummo.

    Is it any wonder – as I believe – the Liberal Party is terminal, and it’s only a matter of when, not if?

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