Our mainstream/legacy corporate media, who have outed themselves as inveterate liars in a hundred other respects before and since that time, embarked on a propaganda campaign worthy of Goebbels in the days following that election, which put a potato-brained, uncharismatic half-invalid incapable of campaigning for president — he couldn’t even fill high school gymnasia at campaign rallies ─ into the White House, ahead of a sitting president who had increased his own vote totals by some 10 million since the 2016 victory.
Everything about that narrative rang false, as did the implausible pattern that took place on Election Night — vote-counting ceasing, only to start back up in the wee hours of the morning with bizarre gains for Joe Biden in the ballot dumps that immediately followed, flipping one state after another until the victory Trump and his supporters thought was in the bag disappeared and doddering old Joe Biden stumbled into the winner’s circle.
The media told us there was no evidence of widespread fraud, but that was clearly a lie.
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“truth heroine Miranda Devine”
Since moving to the US Miranda has been doing good journalism however I still find it hard to forgive her for her slur “Delcons” and her fellating of Malcolm Turnbull from 2015 until recently. Her derogatory journalism about the Liberal Party base and Tony Abbott was disgraceful. She threw her cap in with a man whose “success” (cough) as PM was legislating “SSM”.
Whilst she can no longer maintain the myth that Turnbull was a good choice, for some reason her hostility towards Tony Abbott still eats away at her. Just the other day she couldn’t resist having a dig at Abbott, tweeting that he was AWOL from doing his bit to help the Liberals. Whilst she finally admitted in that same tweet that Turnbull was undermining and maligning Liberals, she still had to malign Abbott. Umm, Miranda, there’s no comparison. I think Abbott is doing a lot for the party in the current campaign, he’s just keeping a low profile, unlike Miranda’s old love, the most miserable Malcolm, who’s spruiking for hard-left independents such as Allegra Spender, of whom he poetically described last week as “outstanding”.
I know what eats away at Miranda, she fell for Malcolm’s charm and spin and she happily put all her eggs in his basket. She knows that what happened in September 2015 was a disaster for the Liberal Party, she knows that Turnbull was a disaster and that the party may never recover from the Turnbull dalliance. She owes us all an apology.
Was it put in as evidence in a court to prove fraud.
didn’t think so. i wonder why as it is very easy to prove electoral fraud if it has occurred. Trump lost every time. Ever wonder why or is there another conspiracy theory coming along
The other thing is why stop at merely the president. Afterall the senate, house even governors are on the form how come the vote was different.
Why would Georgia of all places say the vote was good when it wasn’t afterall Republicans were in control.
Why would democrats work so hard to avoid open scrutiny of the 2020 election? Trump, as prickly as he is, didn’t shut down the Russia investigation. He might not have testified but that was different to the gaslighting and lawsuits the dems have been running to stop any kind of scrutiny for the 2020 election.
One might think an open and transparent investigation would legitimize their victory and damage Trump irreparably should there be nothing to see. Seems low risk to me and astounding that they have been allowed to deny the US people a clear result.
Non Mentis
The other thing is why stop at merely the president. Afterall the senate, house even governors are on the form how come the vote was different.
I realise that you were never able to succeed at pre-school, but you really should try to get someone to keep you current with both historical and current events.
One of the notable things about the late night “ballot dumps” was that many had only a vote for president, or sometimes a couple of down ballot choices. They were generally not filled in completely.
This is probably because so many forged ballots were needed that there was no time to fill in all of the down ballot positions. This explains your conundrum (look it up in the dictionary, you won’t have seen it in pre-school).
Why would Georgia of all places say the vote was good when it wasn’t afterall Republicans were in control.
Still having difficulty with the whole concept of political corruption (all sides do it)? Still believe that corrupt income will always appear on a tax return? A self-proclaimed finance person who doesn’t know about secret offshore bank accounts? Sad, low energy.
BREAKING: Echoes from the Colon.
Non Mentis declares “nothing to see here!”
Oh, and RE: Miranda.
What Cassie said.
Yeah I’m over these slow learners as well, Cassie. Even worse when they won’t admit that they were wrong. Still keen to know if the Libs owe Turdbull money from his election campaign. Hope they go broke when lots of people put the minors in as their first preference. BTW Tramp kind of hard to win a court case when they won’t even let people present evidence.
Yes, Miranda went all-in with ‘Labor would be worse’ when it seemed the besieged Abbott was unlikely to win another election.
Well put Cassie. I’m convinced the first year of J-School they drill holes in their head, hard to think of a rational journalist of any persuasion.
I bought and downloaded the movie. Very convincing evidence of only one small part of what we already knew of course, but hopefully this will be a game changer. Wishful thinking, I know, but anyone who watches the movie can no longer claim there is no evidence. Hopefully Bill Barr is given a copy.
On the other hand, it’s no surprise that there have still been no arrests of those 2000 mules. Maybe when True the Vote names the NGOs involved in the coming weeks, something will happen.
It’s also interesting that there is a spat between Tucker Carlson and Dinesh D’Souza. Tucker will interview people from True the Vote about the steal but won’t mention the movie. A shame because it could do with publicity.
Why won’t he mention the movie?
What is the role of the NGO’s of the “NGO stash houses”?
Do they convince their clients to hand over their blank ballots? Encourage clients to use the NGO’s address as a residential address? Register clients on the voters roll at the NGO’s address?
All of the above?
Something else?
@Baba
‘Something else?’
I understand they use the same model colour printer our RBA uses to manage the wealth of the nation…
There may be Fox lawyers involved or his ego. Maybe both. D’Souza was scathing of him. Carlson wanted to use the middle part of the promo for his interview with True the Vote i.e. the part with no attributions to D’Souza. D’Souza told him to get fucked.
I don’t know why they bother with regard to the stolen election. Nothing has been done and nothing will likely be done (I’d love to be proven wrong).
The FBI is corrupt, the courts are corrupt, most of the politicians (both sides) are corrupt and the people are sleepwalking to oblivion.
There is no line that may not be crossed. Trump isn’t coming back and what would DeSantis do if he became President?
The American empire is over and can only rebuild once it has collapsed. Then, the folks with the guns might have some sway but I doubt it.
I’d still love to wrong on this but I’ve seen nothing other than soundbites.
They collect the ballots from old people’s homes, the homeless or even out of letter boxes, then hire mules to distribute them to the drop off boxes.
I don’t know why they weren’t named in the movie. Maybe lawyers involved, however TtV say will release them in a few weeks.
America as empire ended on the tarmac of Kabul.
It’s over.
Thank you, Jupes.
Part of the problem for True The Vote as a winning cause is that most people think you need a bazillion votes to swing a national election. Not at all. You need a large number of ballots in very specifically targeted contests. It’s very do-able.
whoopsy who didn’t know most ballots in close races were looked at by hand.
of course everyone is corrupt except the fat man.
It is very easy to prove fraud if is has occurred. It isn’t when it hasn’t.
‘who didn’t know most ballots in close races were looked at by hand.’
There is nothing to distinguish the deceptive ballots from real ones – they are identical; inspect them as much as you want and in whatever manner you want.
The deception/crime is in the package it arrives in, hence why mail-in ballots/drop-boxes are targeted.
But you knew that already…
whoopsy who didn’t know most ballots in close races were looked at by hand.
Whoopsy who didn’t know about the DemonRat shenanigans, which either barred Republican observers (not the same as scrutineers here) from counting rooms, or kept them some distance from the counting tables?
Homer isn’t even trying to be clever anymore.
Entropy
He has accepted reality?
Via @Adam_Creighton this bloke points to some valid shortcomings of the 2000 Mules movie.
https://youtu.be/d6Haq0ak0ZU
The duck’s guts from the 7:30 mark.
“America as empire ended on the tarmac of Kabul.
It’s over.”
Yep.
You mean by muppets?
‘Yes, Miranda went all-in with ‘Labor would be worse’ when it seemed the besieged Abbott was unlikely to win another election’.
Abbott would easily have won another election even without the support of the treacherous Turnbull, Pine, Bishop, SoMo etc.
“Abbott would easily have won another election even without the support of the treacherous Turnbull, Pine, Bishop, SoMo etc.”
Agree, given Abbott’s campaigning skills, I have no doubts he would have won in 2016, okay he probably would have lost some seats but there’s no way he would have lost….what was the number again? Ah that’s right, fourteen seats. The Liberals sold their soul in September 2015, knifing a man who’d won a landslide in 2013. The party will never recover. It’s over.
It isn’t much of an argument to say that Zelensky is a Jew.
Joe Biden is a Catholic. Lord Haw-Haw was a Briton. So what?
The ‘Zelensky is a Jew’ line is used by war enthusiasts embarrassed about backing, funding and arming nazis.
“It isn’t much of an argument to say that Zelensky is a Jew.
Joe Biden is a Catholic. Lord Haw-Haw was a Briton. So what?
The ‘Zelensky is a Jew’ line is used by war enthusiasts embarrassed about backing, funding and arming nazis.”
Yep.
That was a myth. what is the point of talking to wood ducks who want to believe fiction.
Why was there a discrepancy between voting for the p[resident and other races. That simply does not make sense.
Take a look at what Daley did in Chicago in 1960. All races went towards to democrats.
that is what would happen if fraud was apparent. Of course it needs to be said again fraud is very easy to prover if it has occurred. It is thrown out of court if it is a myth.
Are the Judges part of this discrepancy as well.
As for Abbott who is in competition with Bruce for our worst ever PM winning the next election. Remember NO polling failure back then and they were say an absolute landslide to the ALP.
his own faction went to Turnbull to lead the Liberals becaause of this.
“Look at this thing half a century ago, if they didn’t do that exact same thing then this different thing you’re saying happened didn’t happen”.
Abbott won 2010 in an historic landslide.
Nothing was going to change, he was ousted by the treacherous Turnbullian northern beaches faction who are perpetually revolted that the suburban everyman thinks he should have his man running the country and not one of them.
no bozo what I am saying is when people commit fraud they do it in every race not one . Only morons would believe that.
sorry to tell you but his own faction left him cormann tapped turnbull on the shoulder and said if these certain things are unchanged then you will be leader.
what do deplorables believe.
They believe there is evidence even though ti was thrown out at all court hearings.
They hate budget deficits even though like most republicans Trump blew his budget on tax cuts at full employment that did nothing to the economy.
The end of Afghanistan was a tragedy but nothing is said about the ‘peacetalks Trump held with the taliban which excluded the government of the day. nothing at all is said about the date Trump st to leave Afghanistan.
Trump would have nuked russia when they invaded Ukraine despite saying he would pull the USA out of NATO and that he would never come to the defence of a NATO country.
it is very embatrassing but they are never embarassed by their idiocy.
Who is arguing that it only the presidential trial race that is gamed?
Stop making up shit to argue against Homer. You can’t even win an argument with yourself, no matter how silly your frame the argument.
Non Mentis
Remember NO polling failure back then and they were say an absolute landslide to the ALP.
How do you know that there was “NO polling failure back then”, when the polling was never put to the test? Wishful thinking by pollsters and psephologists?
Take a look at what Daley did in Chicago in 1960. All races went towards to democrats
Daley knew what he had to do, and had time to plan it. He did not have a sudden need for more votes for JFK, because Nixon had polled better than expected.
Stick to training new bank tellers how to balance their cash drawers at the end of the day. It’s about the limit of your intellectual capacity.
what do deplorables believe.
Poor old Non Mentis, not even capable of making ip his own insults, has to steal one form the great failure Shrillary.
Do they? God came down from heaven and declared “though whoeth commits election fraud, must do so in every both congressional, senate and presidential race!”.
Feynman discovered the Fraud Particle: “fraud in one race, fraud in all races: axiomatic!” he declared upon his discovery.
You silly old git.
They wanted Trump out and Biden in at any cost. That is all.
twostix
They wanted Trump out and Biden in at any cost. That is all.
And since they always intended to rule centrally by decree from DC, the down ticket races were less important. The key aim was to produce enough bogus presidential ballots to beat the unexpected (to the DemonRats) surge in support for Trump on election day.
PS, notice how casually leftists now admit to the fraudulence of the election of JFK. Very much (as now) a feeling from them that “We got away with it, what are you going to do about it?
innumerate one, we know thee was no polling failure because well there was no polling failure. Amazing eh.
No Dale y knew it would be close as that was what the polls were telling him. He had plenty of time to prepare. Do you ever do any homework or are you just bone lazy?
It makes sense only to a deplorable. commit fraud in only one race. Why would they bet on Georgian voters voting for both Democrat senate candidates. Why settle for a 50/550 senate at all? Why would they allow their house majority to fall?
Trump never got within cooee of winning the popular vote previously. After he stuffed the pandemic he had two changes of doing it this time.
Why did all the courts throw out every court case alleging fraud? not one judge thought much of any of the cases.
Every cogitate on that at all?
Non Mentis
innumerate one, we know thee was no polling failure because well there was no polling failure. Amazing eh.
So the Coalition was decisively beaten at the next election? As you said earlier:
Remember NO polling failure back then and they were say an absolute landslide to the ALP.
But the event “polled” – Abbott trying for re-election did not occur, so, innumerate but politically biased one, so the polls cannot be confirmed. Indeed, they might have been push-polling, intended to de-stabilise Abbott and help Turdballs.
No Dale y knew it would be close as that was what the polls were telling him. He had plenty of time to prepare.
Still with the poor reading comprehension. That is what I was saying. Daley could get everything set up, right down the ballot paper, in 1960. In 2020, there was a rush to Trump n polling day, and emergency measures were necessary. These did not allow time to fill all the down ballot choices.
commit fraud in only one race.
You either did not read or are too stupid to comprehend my earlier response about the DemonRats intending to rule by decree from DC. Probably the latter.
You should give up on trying to be Australia’s answer to Machiavelli, you lack the necessary intelligence.
no-one said there was going to be a landslide last time. it was 51/49 52/48.
Err the polls were spot on with the election both when Abbott won and then Turnbull won. so even a moron would understand there was no polling failure.
Why would they have to rush when they knew they were going to win. The election was never going to be close. It is on the same piece of paper. No extra work involved.
Really only ruling by decree and ignoring congress. No President can do that. You do need to pass things in congress. What a boofhead.
Non Mentis
Err the polls were spot on with the election both when Abbott won and then Turnbull won. so even a moron would understand there was no polling failure.
Err, even a moron could comprehend that a poll about an election that did not occur (Abbott as PM in 2016) cannot be considered “proven” to be true. But you do not even reach that level.
Why would they have to rush when they knew they were going to win. The election was never going to be close. It is on the same piece of paper. No extra work involved.
In the 2020 election, Trump received the highest individual vote of any sitting president. Late on election night, he led by significant numbers in the key states, then many thousands of votes appeared after counting stopped, predominantly for Biden. The “wonderful” polls left the DemonRats with an urgent need for many more votes in a hurry. Ticking the many boxes on a US ballot paper does involve extra work, but being unable to work in the real economy, you are not familiar with the concept.
Really only ruling by decree and ignoring congress. No President can do that. You do need to pass things in congress. What a boofhead.
Not familiar with the concept of Executive Orders? What a boofhead!