We Won (UPDATED)

Deo Gratias: The US Supreme Court has overturned the non-existent ‘right’ to kill the unborn.

They’ll always have Minnie Mouse: Disney will provide ‘comprehensive access’ for abortion.
Childless Kamala Harris – sounding drunk – says the “liberty” of abortion is “centuries” old.
Childless French President Emmanuel Macron expresses “solidarity” with American women.
Childless Scott Nicola Sturgeon: “One of the darkest days for women’s rights in my lifetime.”
Childless Julia Gillard endorses Michelle Obama’s call to “keep fighting for women’s rights.”

Barack Obama encourages supporters to “act” and “be on the front lines of this fight.”
Video: Dangerous mob of Biden-incited insurrectionists are laying siege to the Supreme Court.
Like old times in the south: Democrats organise lynching posse to go after Clarence Thomas.
All the latest street videos of Democrat insurrectionists on the march against the rule of law.
Enough is enough: 19 Attorneys-General call on Joe Biden to confront pro-abortion terrorism.
Biden accidentally pays Donald Trump the compliment of besting all of his GOP predecessors.

Pictured: Elderly lady trampled by police horses during February anti-mandate protest in Ottawa.
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59 Responses to We Won (UPDATED)

  1. Lee says:

    It seems to me that the States legislating bans on abortion are imposing religious beliefs by law, which is certainly something we usually think of as “bad law”.

    Rubbish!
    People can be and are opposed to abortion on moral, not just religious grounds.
    But bigots have always got to play the religious angle.

  2. Buccaneer says:

    CL: Bad law or not, abortion doesn’t rate a mention in the Torah, Koran or Bible.

    Thanks for pointing out this is not a religious issue but a moral one.

    To be clear, government regularly passes legislation to encourage good behaviour and discourage bad behaviour.

    This is a tricky subject because carrying an unwanted pregnancy creates a burden on the mother. However, terminating a pregnancy clearly kills a formative human and transgresses the moral imperative of doing no harm to another.

    The original Roe V Wade decision did try to balance this but creating law from the bench by precedent is fraught for such a controversial topic.

    The simple answer is that lawmakers need to do their jobs. Come together and find solutions to that balance the moral quandaries in way that is sustainable and will pass.

    If that now has to happen state by state because the Biden administration is feckless, so be it.

    I’m just confused as to why this is such a big news item in Australia when the Clinton campaign trying to undermine an elected president via a fictional dossier was not big news.

  3. False Equivalence says:

    Buccaneer: it is a moral decision rightly made by a mother. Not by a police officer. Or a judge. Nor by you or me. It is intensely private and the insistence on this intervention goes well beyond morality.

    Since you reach for whatabouts; what about the morality of the many anti-abortionists who claim divine right to weapons designed solely to kill people in large numbers?

    Hypocrisy is big in these morality “debates”.

  4. Buccaneer says:

    I suppose murdering a child is intensely private, who would want someone to know they were a child killer.

    The determination on when a life starts and has meaning is a choice for a mother? Can they pick after birth like some lefty advocates suggest? I mean you’re happy to equate the most extreme people on the other side of your argument to the totality of it so perhaps you’ll acknowledge that Kermit Gosnell and Peter Singer (who argues for abortion up to 28 days after birth is ok) are in your camp too.

    On the other hand, I don’t agree that taking a life should be a court given ‘right’.

    I’d simply prefer the Dems to man up with some legislation and do the hard work of negotiation to get a result that US citizens will be comfortable with not play silly insurrection games.

  5. False Equivalence says:

    Buccaneer: my opinion is plain as day and unequivocal. Mothers are the ones to decide on abortion. The ones who are in that position do not deserve to be labelled murderers by people who don’t need to decide and have no view of the factors bearing on individual decisions.
    Frankly, this insistence on intruding into people’s lives is astonishing.

  6. twostix says:

    Buccaneer: my opinion is plain as day and unequivocal. Mothers are the ones to decide on abortion. The ones who are in that position do not deserve to be labelled murderers by people who don’t need to decide and have no view of the factors bearing on individual decisions.
    Frankly, this insistence on intruding into people’s lives is astonishing.

    Infanticide it is then!

    Your stupid gutless decision to punt, is how abortion laws ended up killing babies at full term for any reason at all, and why Roe vs Wade is now being overturned.

    Well done!

  7. Buccaneer says:

    Your opinion is a strawman. The whole reason the pathetic tactic of creating law from the bench failed the dems in this case because the people couldn’t agree and absolutists like you won’t compromise. It won’t end until the people come together and create a reasonable legislation accepted by enough people to make objection one way or the other small enough to gain no traction.

    I would personally accept there is a period of gestation where the mother should be able to make an informed choice. But I would caution, that in a society where we overwhelmingly support single parents, our community should be encouraging potential mothers to carry to term in most situations.

    The burden of parenthood alone is a poor excuse to terminate a life. Anyone who has witnessed an ultrasound at 12 weeks and has an ounce of humanity understands this.

  8. Buccaneer says:

    Further to this, this issue alone highlights the lie that the left stand up for the most vulnerable. The more you try to intimidate people, through violence, to bend to your will, the more it shows you care nothing about anything other than your own power and prestige.

  9. False Equivalence says:

    Buccaneer: tell the women concerned that this is a straw man argument.

    As for your quibbling, your whole argument is about imposing your prejudices on women – for example the idea that abortion is somehow convenient. Convenient to whom, exactly? Certainly not the mother.

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