He doesn’t have cancer but he does purportedly have COVID

Officials say the quadruple ‘vaccinated’ Joe Biden will run America via Zoom, regardless. LOL.

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50 Responses to He doesn’t have cancer but he does purportedly have COVID

  1. Not Trampis says:

    getting vaxxed does not mean you cannot get covid. It does mean the consequences aren’t as bad as not being vaxxed.

  2. cuckoo says:

    When I heard he was positive for covid, my first thought was “Oh, so that’s how they’re going to manage it..” I can see them handing the folded flag to Doctor Jill already.

  3. Fat Tony says:

    Not Trampis says:
    22 July, 2022 at 8:41 am
    getting vaxxed does not mean you cannot get covid. It does mean the consequences aren’t as bad as not being vaxxed.

    I spose there are worse things than dying…

    (Note: the vast majority of COVID deaths are double/triple/quadruple “vaxxed”, you f-wit.)

  4. Chris M says:

    getting vaxxed does not mean you cannot get covid

    That’s exactly the opposite to what the lying senile husk said.

    the consequences aren’t as bad as not being vaxxed

    This claim turned out to be the opposite also, due to variants makes it worse as the hospital data from may countries shows.

  5. bollux says:

    There seem to be very few unvaccinated people who catch covid. Almost everyone who gets it is jabbed. How anyone can say that they would have been sicker without the jab is beyond me. Are they prescient? When the TGA had my Ivermectin that I was trying to import from India destroyed, it spoke volumes about these crooks in the medical profession. They are doing everything possible to prolong covid IMHO.

  6. C.L. says:

    In a matter of weeks, CHOs and Ray Hadley will be rounding on the merely quadruple-vaccinated. Only 3 per cent of the hospitalised haven’t had their fifth dose, they’ll say.

  7. C.L. says:

    getting vaxxed does not mean you cannot get covid. It does mean the consequences aren’t as bad as not being vaxxed.

    Say the line.

  8. Prospero says:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-compare-covid-deaths-for-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people/

    I don’t expect it to have any influence, as you have become wilfully ignorant.

  9. C.L. says:

    Trump’s get-well message is a classic of the Donald Genre.
    Added to post.

  10. Buccaneer says:

    The Dems told us that locking the borders at the start of covid was racist. They then told us they wouldn’t take vaccines because they were unsafe. Once Biden won, their message changed 180 degrees.
    They have done more to undermine the basis of vaccination than anyone else, but other governments have helped along the way.

    Vaccination has always held risks, no immunologist worth their salt would deny that. Indeed, the basis for vaccination has always been one to evaluate the risk of the vaccine vs the risk of the infection. For example, people in Australia don’t get vaccinated for malaria unless they are going to a place where malaria is prevalent. It’s an unnecessary risk.

    But with Covid vaccines there has been an overt or covert mandate for vaccination. This is wrong, getting the vaccination is not wrong per se, but for some people it makes no sense, including for those who are afraid of it for no logical reason.

    The scientific american article highlights how difficult the argument is now to explain why people should be vaccinated against covid. We were promised that this vaccine would see us back to normal, that we would be immune, etc. Rightly or wrongly people now don’t trust vaccination as much as they did previously. This is a tragedy and more judicious use of language and avoiding politic could have avoided that.

  11. Not Trampis says:

    Gee Fat Tony does know basic Stats. wow.
    Willful ignorance at its best. you cannot say that about CL as he has always been innumerate.

  12. Petros says:

    Big pharma sluts really don’t like control groups.

  13. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis

    getting vaxxed does not mean you cannot get covid. It does mean the consequences aren’t as bad as not being vaxxed.

    An unprovable statement.

  14. Boambee John says:

    Non Mntis

    Gee Fat Tony does know basic Stats. wow.
    Willful ignorance at its best. you cannot say that about CL as he has always been innumerate.

    Semi-literate Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo Whiskey India Tango passes judgement on someone he has never met, on the basis of a comment on a blog. Should have finished pre-school, he might have learned something about evidence.

  15. Lee says:

    getting vaxxed does not mean you cannot get covid. It does mean the consequences aren’t as bad as not being vaxxed.

    And your proof of that is?

  16. and says:

    Hey, Preposterous & Snot (Mentis),

    How do you think those who smoke (tobacco) fare in the Covid stats?

    Thanking you in advance.

  17. Not Trampis says:

    wow the primary school drop out can’t even read.
    I am not surprised.

  18. Prospero says:

    The problem, as illustrated by several of the comments following mine, is clear: those on the Right who insist on seeing everything as a culture war issue are unable to be convinced by normal evidence. If Democrats/Lefties/scientists (who are nearly all Lefties after all) recommended it, it must be at least suspect, or just outright disbelieved.

    Hence, studies and evidence count for nothing – there is no point in asking you to read them, as it’s all down to anecdotal accounts (“I got it and I’ve had worse colds”), and a search for misused statistics or a careless statement by anyone on the pro vaccination side to justify the preordained culture war conclusion.

    Of course we have seen this before – with climate change: it’s exactly the same dynamic. Nothing will change your closed minds. 40 degree days in England? One in a 100 floods arriving every 5 years? Glaciers melting, global temperature records showing a long term rise clearly in line with predictions. Ooh, it’s a Lefty thing, it can’t be true.

    As I said, it’s a case of wilful ignorance.

  19. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis

    wow the primary school drop out can’t even read.
    I am not surprised.

    Wow, the pre-school failure can’t even punctuate.

    I am not surprised.

  20. Boambee John says:

    Preposterous gives a preposterous summary of his preposterous political opinions.

    Perhaps he/she/xe offer some actual evidence for his/her/xer assertions, if he/she/xe wants to convince any sceptics? Don’t klimate “scientists” say that one or two cold days are weather, not klimate change? Why then are a couple of hot days always klimate change, not weather? Glaciers melting? Like that idiot put in one of the IPCC reports a few years ago about the Himalayas, and had to back down? “Adjusted” temperature records that cool the past to make it seem that temperatures have been increasing? Models that need regular adjustments to appear to even reflect recent records (adjusted as they might be)? Models that produced “predictions” that do not match even the adjusted records?

  21. C.L. says:

    If Democrats/Lefties/scientists (who are nearly all Lefties after all) recommended it, it must be at least suspect, or just outright disbelieved.

    Your thesis sinks very quickly given that Donald Trump was the hero of Operation Warp Speed and an avid vaxxer – as were all of the conservative/Liberal politicians in the world, excepting three or four.

    On science: life begins at conception. Democrats refuse to accept it. They also claim men can be women and women can be men. In the 1970s, they claimed we were on the verge of an ice age. There is no scientific evidence that temperatures are driven by carbon dioxide emissions; pre-industrial temperatures have been as high or higher. There is no scientific evidence anything can be done about it anyway; we know that Australia could sink under the waves tomorrow and it wouldn’t make any substantive difference to CO2 output. Driving a Tesla because you think it will save polar bears is like wearing a rabbit’s foot to the races.

    The most important number re covid is as true now as it was for c-alpha: 98% of people who get it aren’t troubled by it. ‘Vaccines’ supposedly offer short-term advantage to a small minority of aged and vulnerable people. Everyone else is harassed and bullied about it only because ‘health officials’ and the pharmaceutical companies to which they are beholden want to institutionalise a profitability model founded on compulsion.

  22. Buccaneer says:

    Ahh, so the dems who said they wouldn’t take the vaccine because of Trump weren’t playing culture wars. Right back at you Prospero, stop playing culture wars with this issue.

  23. Prospero says:

    The fact that Trump is an aberration – a “culture warrior” who nonetheless promoted vaccination – does nothing to detract from the obvious truth that the Venn diagram of climate change deniers and covid/covid vaccination sceptics shows huge overlap. (Trump’s position is explicable by his enormous and needy ego – if he can see a way he thinks he will get praised he’ll grab it – although amusingly, he couldn’t actually get his followers to go along on that one.)

    On climate change and vaccination, you have culture war theories that they are both, essentially, conspiracies driven by people you don’t trust and who you think want to control you. That makes pointing to studies and evidence pointless – you’ve already pronounced you won’t be convinced.

    It’s also an intrinsically selfish position – vaccination (and action on climate change) results in society wide benefit. But you don’t want that because of a child like resentment of “I won’t let a Lefty tell me what to do.” It’s transparent and pathetic.

  24. Prospero says:

    so the dems who said they wouldn’t take the vaccine because of Trump weren’t playing culture wars.

    Bloody hell – show me that there were any significant number who said that. There will always be some cranks on all side of politics, so one or two counts for nothing. Let’s look at some evidence, instead of pulling ideas out of your arse:

    A Gallup survey released on Sept. 29 confirmed the KFF findings. As of mid-September, 75% of adult Americans have been vaccinated, including 73% of non-Hispanic white adults and 78% of non-whites. Along party lines, however, the breakdown was 92% of Democrats, 68% of Independents, and 56% of Republicans.

    There is no reason to believe that these gaps in vaccination rates will disappear anytime soon. According to Gallup, 40% of Republicans “don’t plan” to get vaccinated, versus 26% of Independents and just 3% of Democrats.

  25. Jannie says:

    I think Non Mentis has been suitably corrected. I am starting to thing he is providing a useful service. He provokes such erudite, pithy and humorous responses, its worth having him here. And the variations on his tag are almost a genre itself.

  26. Jannie says:

    Same for Not Prosperous.

  27. Lee says:

    On science: life begins at conception. Democrats refuse to accept it.

    Some years ago in America a pregnant woman lost her unborn baby in a terrible car accident.
    The negligent driver who caused the accident was convicted and jailed for manslaughter.

  28. and says:

    Driving a Tesla because you think it will save polar bears is like wearing a rabbit’s foot to the races.

    Preposterous hides his rabbit’s foot behind the gold necklaces and buttons up his floral bodyshirt.

  29. Buccaneer says:

    It’s hard to throw accusations of culture war at your opponents when you lack this much credibility. That reflects on you too Prospero…

    Kamala Harris

    A nice vignette on Dems and their scepticism on the vaccine while they were in opposition.

  30. Boambee John says:

    Preposterous

    the Venn diagram of climate change deniers and covid/covid vaccination sceptics shows huge overlap

    So thoughtful people come to thoughtful conclusions, and idiots reject the real facttual evidence. Go look in the mirror, to see a fool.

    That makes pointing to studies and evidence pointless – you’ve already pronounced you won’t be convinced.

    Show us some facts, not “studies” based on GIGO computer models.

    It’s also an intrinsically selfish position – vaccination (and action on climate change) results in society wide benefit.

    Only if the vaccinations are not actively harmful, and the “klimate change” actually is anthropogenic (give us some proof) and actually catastrophic (proof please, the effects so far appear to have been beneficial).

    I note that, like many deceptive leftists, you ignore the first two key words in the phrase “Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Change”, and focus solely on the words “climate change”, which is pretty much a non claim. Most sentient beings (this excludes leftists) are well aware that the climate has been changing for many millenia, and the key issues are the first two words.

  31. Lee says:

    It’s also an intrinsically selfish position – vaccination (and action on climate change) results in society wide benefit.

    Says a strongly pro-abortion, “my body, my choice” hypocrite.

  32. Not Trampis says:

    Prospero,
    you gave them something to read but they refused. It is all there.
    Stupid is as stupid does

  33. Fat Tony says:

    40 degree days in England?

    At an airport, with acres & acres of tar & cement…with jet exhausts & the full Urban Heat Island Effect. Plus digital temperature gauges that measure instantaneous changes that were never recorded before.

  34. Fat Tony says:

    Non Compos Mentis / Preposterous

    I’m game – tell me how they overcame the 20 year problem* they had with developing mRNA vaccines for coronaviruses etc.

    * the problem with the test animals all dying when exposed to a natural virus.

  35. Buccaneer says:

    I read it. It completely misses the point. Assuming the research is correct, all they are trying to demonstrate is that people have less chance of dying if they are vaccinated. But it also identifies that this is not a particularly strong effect. ie, there is not a such a low chance of dying once vaccinated that the risk vs reward equation is overwhelmingly obvious.

    This creates a big problem that is not addressed in the article. The main basis for vaccination coercion or mandate has been the idea that vaccination will create herd immunity or at least reduce transmission. It’s pretty clear that there has been not much impact on transmission from vaccination.

    However, this study unfortunately also highlights that the vaccine effect on reducing transmission is minimal in the context of delta variant circulation.

    In the absence of any impact on transmission, it’s appropriate for governments to enable individuals, with advice from their practitioner, to make their own informed decision on their vaccination status without by proxy coercion.

  36. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis

    Prospero,
    you gave them something to read but they refused. It is all there.
    Stupid is as stupid does

    Preposterous is ahead of you, you are to stupid to provide any reading matter.

    PS, strange as it might seem, the material rabid fools like Preposterous provide is often only convincing to the “true believers”.

  37. Tel says:

    The problem, as illustrated by several of the comments following mine, is clear: those on the Right who insist on seeing everything as a culture war issue are unable to be convinced by normal evidence.

    You mean when a white van turns up at 3:30 AM on the morning after the presidential election and starts dropping box after box of ballots into the counting room … those on the Right keep weirdly thinking that seems to be evidence as cheating.

    Whereas “normal evidence” would be, errr, the white van is supposed to be invisible and we all tiptoe around pretending it didn’t happen … you know … the new normal … not the old normal … no more seeing the stuff in front of your eyes.

  38. Prospero says:

    You mean when a white van turns up at 3:30 AM on the morning after the presidential election and starts dropping box after box of ballots into the counting room … those on the Right keep weirdly thinking that seems to be evidence as cheating.

    When your actual election officials, often Republican, and Attorney General who couldn’t get his nose further into Trump’s orifice if he tried, have looked into it and dismissed it – then you’ve got nothing.

    You’re just a gullible conspiracy monger.

  39. Prospero says:

    Jeez: even the nutty Washington Times ran an article debunking the “white van” conspiracy.

    You’ve got nothing beyond a bunch of dimwits looking at stuff they don’t understand saying “and that looked suspicious to me”, and thinking that’s enough grounds for overturning an election.

  40. Tel says:

    You literally cannot see the white van, because someone somewhere told you it should be invisible.

    And then you talk about “normal evidence” … hah hah, do you realize how weird that sounds?

  41. Boambee John says:

    Preposterous

    Nothing to say about whether “climate change” is either anthropogenic (and if so, to what extent) or even potentially catastrophic?

  42. Tel says:

    Take note of the cognitive process here:
    * Ignore the evidence, and don’t even discuss.
    * Use argument by authority, because some random journalist dipstick is ignoring the evidence, it must be OK.
    * Accuse your opponent of ignoring the evidence.
    * Resort to name-calling like a 6 year old.

    Hey, how could there be a problem with this?

  43. Chris M says:

    Article in The Advertiser right now:

    “Doctors issue new Omicron warning

    A new warning has been issued to millions of people who have been triple vaxxed, as experts find an increased risk in hospitalisation.”

    Haha you don’t say! Todays mainstream news is just on a 12-18 month delay cycle.

  44. Morsie says:

    When Trump had Covid I seem to remember lots of lefties hoping it killed him.With Biden I am not seeing the same viciousness.
    It could be my bias but I doubt it.

  45. Not Trampis says:

    Trump lost 62-0 in courts.
    Voter fraud is very easy to prove and you gullible deplorables are still eating it up despite a lack of evidence.
    Ignore what evidence. There were several states where absentee ballots etc were counted last. There were a lot of them because of covid. duh
    You asserted Alinta closed a coal fired power station because of RET without any evidence at all. You di not even understand basic corporate law. you are the last person to ask for evidence

  46. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis still re-babbling points that were not convincing all of the previous times he has spewed them forth.

  47. Boambee John says:

    Preposterous

    You haven’t come back with anything to say about whether “climate change” is either anthropogenic (and if so, to what extent) or even potentially catastrophic?

    Cat got your typing finger?

    Non Mentis

    Feel free to add your 10 cents worth.

  48. Prospero says:

    By the way, that’s a fake Trump press release.

    But facts don’t matter here, I know that…

  49. Boambee John says:

    Shock horror, lefty gets upset at the use of lefty tactics against the fascist left.

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