George Washington and his troops were not true Americans

Posted on 28 July, 2022 by C.L.

Hopped-up Joe Biden’s latest howler proves Donald Trump still owns what remains of his mind.

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75 Responses to George Washington and his troops were not true Americans

Boambee John says:

29 July, 2022 at 4:49 pm

Preposterous

Yeah, yeah. That’s very plausible.

[Actually, it’s incredibly stupid.]

Well, it was done by the DemonRats, so by definition it is incredibly stupid.
Boambee John says:

29 July, 2022 at 4:51 pm

Preposterous

showed you specifically that a Trump insider knew that Trump would declare victory on election night on false pretences.

You have been shown specifically that Shrillary tried to declare victory on election night, also on false pretences. She had to be calmed down by her staff, and refused to concede in public.
Prospero says:

29 July, 2022 at 4:54 pm

Except Bannon stopped working with Trump 3 years earlier, in that interview he was presented as former Trump advisor Steve Bannon.

Donald Trump is reportedly back in touch with his former chief strategist Steve Bannon, who he has been speaking to several times over the phone in recent weeks, seeking advice on how to overturn his defeat in the 2020 presidential elections.

– The Independent, 15 Jan 2021

You reckon it’s impossible Bannon and Trump spoke before the election?
Boambee John says:

29 July, 2022 at 4:57 pm

Preposterous

And all BlowJ has got is “what about Hillary!” (I don’t even know what he is on about, and it matters for naught anyway) as well as his new “but you’ve been fooled because you haven’t watched 14,000 hours of raw video” – when he hasn’t seen it either.

So plausible – because the video we have seen is so, so ambiguous. [Complete sarcasm, of course.]

Non Mentis (he without a mind) has shown greater ability to comprehend plain English than you have. If you do not understand (or, worse, are unaware of), the Shrillary issue, I am amazed that you remember to breathe.

You also seemed to be unaware of the restricted release of the security footage, suggesting that your knowledge of the events of 6 January is extremely shallow. Ditto on the issue of the actually released video. If you think that the editing and selection was politically impartial, you are a fool, or biased. Probably both.
Buccaneer says:

29 July, 2022 at 5:05 pm

You reckon it’s impossible Bannon and Trump spoke before the election?

And you have the hide to call other people conspiracy theorists. The fact is that you are misrepresenting what Bannon said by casting him as an agent of Trump, when he was just running a commentary.
Prospero says:

29 July, 2022 at 5:20 pm

It’s quite the co-incidence, isn’t it?

In fact, I think, there are others who were in the White House who have specifically said they said to Trump on the election night not to declare victory, it was too early in the vote.

Former Trump campaign insiders told the House Jan. 6 Committee Monday that it was “far too early” for then-President Donald Trump to declare victory on election night in 2020 over Democratic rival Joe Biden.

In videotaped depositions revealed Monday, campaign spokesman Jason Miller said the president was urged to declare victory by attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani, whom Mr. Miller said was intoxicated at the time.

“There were suggestions by, I believe it was Mayor Giuliani, to go and declare victory and say that we’d won outright,” Mr. Miller said.

Trump‘s campaign manager, William Stepien. told the committee that he recommended that the president wait for more votes to be counted before declaring victory.

“It was far too early to be making any calls like that,” Mr. Stepien told the panel in a separate deposition introduced Monday. “Ballots were still being counted. Ballots were still going to be counted for days.”

But Trump took the drunk flake’s advise and did what Bannon predicted he would (whether or not Bannon put the idea into Trump’s head too – not 100% clear but would hardly be surprising that they were talking before the election.)
Prospero says:

29 July, 2022 at 5:24 pm

But Trump thinks he won the election and there was massive fraud, so we gotta pretend he is genuine and have some massive investigation into inventions and ignorant claims of “that looked suspicious to me” which were looked into by a lackey like Barr and dissolved into nothing.
Prospero says:

29 July, 2022 at 5:26 pm

That’s your case – “well I don’t think it was investigated enough”.

Versus Barr, suck ass who would vote for Trump again, “I had several claims looked into, and there was nothing to them. I told Trump. He wouldn’t believe me, he barely seemed capable of living in reality, and I resigned.” That’s a paraphrase, but pretty close to his evidence.
Boambee John says:

29 July, 2022 at 5:28 pm

Preposterous

the drunk flake’s advise

Enough about Shrillary!

PS, that’s “advice”; “advise” is a verb, not a noun.
Boambee John says:

29 July, 2022 at 5:31 pm

Preposterous

But Trump thinks he won the election and there was massive fraud, so we gotta pretend he is genuine and have some massive investigation into inventions and ignorant claims of “that looked suspicious to me” which were looked into by a lackey like Barr and dissolved into nothing.

It is somewhat strange that you seem unaware of any developments since 6 January. Multiple investigations at state level have disclosed reasonable grounds for suspicion, but the federal authorities (who want to take over election management, contra the Constitution) are completely uninterested (but certainly not disinterested).
Prospero says:

29 July, 2022 at 5:31 pm

Here’s Politico, summing it up (from the Jan 6 committee investigation):

Stepien. Attorney General Bill Barr. Campaign aides Matt Morgan and Alex Cannon. Barr’s successor Jeff Rosen. Rosen’s deputy Richard Donoghue. White House advisers Eric Herschmann and Derek Lyons. All delved into the fraud claims that gained Trump’s favor, according to testimony aired Monday, and all told Trump there was nothing to them.

But Bucco in Australia says “I don’t think it was investigated enough. It’s real suspicious how they didn’t investigate it. Must be something to hide!”

You think you’re not a conspiracy theorist, but you actually are. Of the kind “I’m not saying it’s fraud. But we’ll never know for sure…”
Prospero says:

29 July, 2022 at 5:34 pm

Multiple investigations at state level have disclosed reasonable grounds for suspicion

They have not. I read the news too.

You’ll a gullible consumer of highly partisan “investigators” flakey conclusions that don’t stand up.

You a believer in 20000000 Mules, too, I would guess.
Buccaneer says:

29 July, 2022 at 6:05 pm

Prepo, second hand accounts that people told Trump there was nothing to see. I wouldn’t take that if the roles were reversed, but you would here. All the things you accuse others of being, you are yourself. You’re just too intellectually and emotionally dishonest to recognise it.
Boambee John says:

29 July, 2022 at 6:17 pm

Preposterous

I have not viewed 20000000 Mules, nor even 2000 Mules. Perhaps you could summarise both, in fewer than 20000000 words?
Prospero says:

29 July, 2022 at 6:21 pm

Prepo, second hand accounts that people told Trump there was nothing to see. I wouldn’t take that if the roles were reversed, but you would here.

Don’t ever get on a jury.

It’s not “second hand accounts”. It is first hand evidence of what they told Trump. On oath. Several people telling a consistent story.
Prospero says:

29 July, 2022 at 6:21 pm

in fewer than 20000000 words?

“It’s a crock”.
Buccaneer says:

29 July, 2022 at 6:26 pm

I’ve been on a jury, but it wasn’t a show trial with a teleprompter and no cross examination. and when a witness pulled a howler like Cassidy Hutchinson, the judge let us ask for more information.
Boambee John says:

29 July, 2022 at 6:33 pm

Preposterous

Then you didn’t enjoy it? What was the low point?
Prospero says:

29 July, 2022 at 6:41 pm

and no cross examination

And whose fault is that? Republicans, of course.
Prospero says:

29 July, 2022 at 6:53 pm

Then you didn’t enjoy it? What was the low point?

Don’t crap on. You don’t have to watch a documentary to know it’s crap if enough people write about why it’s crap.

You know, I hear that there’s some docos explaining how the WTC was actually a controlled demolition. How dare you dismiss this without watching those docos.
Buccaneer says:

29 July, 2022 at 7:20 pm

And whose fault is that? Republicans, of course.

How childish is that, you keep accusing Trump off being a man child, but the observation I would make is that no one beat a child by out childing them.
Boambee John says:

29 July, 2022 at 8:41 pm

Preposterous

And whose fault is that? Republicans, of course.

That you claim to believe this demonstrates how ignorant you choose to be.
Boambee John says:

29 July, 2022 at 8:42 pm

Preposterous

Don’t crap on. You don’t have to watch a documentary to know it’s crap if enough people write about why it’s crap.

Particularly if those people support your entrenched beliefs.
Tel says:

29 July, 2022 at 8:45 pm

Prospero is incredibly astute at cherry picking the exact evidence he pays attention to, while at the same time accusing others of not looking at evidence, because they look at something he wants to ignore.

Any moron can watch a video … it takes someone quite special to carefully select exactly they right videos that lead to the perfect pre-conceived conclusion.
Boambee John says:

29 July, 2022 at 9:24 pm

Tel

Why else would Pelosi have suppressed most of the CCTV recordings, and released only selected bits?