Batty extremism hailed as moderate triumph for Albanese

Anthony Albanese has had a big win on climate change and assured the passage of his 2030 carbon emissions reductions target of 43 per cent.

It’s probably not quite as all-encompassing as the Prime Minister’s claim that it’s the biggest success in ten years of climate wars but it is big.

What’s more, it’s a Labor victory in the face of an even more radical Greens’ agenda which Albanese has nullified.

But there are even bigger fights to come and graver dangers in the details of the way to achieve the target…

Labor has managed to deny the Greens a more radical agenda and simultaneously keep the Coalition irrelevant in parliament on climate change.

It’s mad, bad and dangerous and utterly insane and stupid.”
Terry McCrann

Remember, Dennis Shanahan is here talking about a fake ‘target’ to reduce a harmless gas to lower an iota of a nation’s tiny whole to solve a non-existent emergency before a meaningless deadline by which nobody will be accountable. And 43% is a “big win” because it’s marginally less idiotic than the Greens’ touted preference – 75% – a chunk of which was ambit padding anyway. He and other writers at The Australian must know this is deranged but apparently 1) no longer have the heart to take on the ‘consensus’; 2) don’t want to upset the carbon-struck Murdochs; and 3) figure it’s noble to decorate Appomattox in the conservative bunting of “certainty.” Bottom line: the only thing now standing between you and guaranteed loss of wealth is… the Liberal Party.

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27 Responses to Batty extremism hailed as moderate triumph for Albanese

  1. Petros says:

    This has been done with the support of the coalition, right?

  2. Entropy says:

    If you view it purely from political game playing Shanahan is kinda right. McCrann of course is looking at the real world impacts.

  3. Riversutra says:

    Bottom line: the only thing now standing between you and guaranteed loss of wealth is… the Liberal Party.

    Thank Heavens, for a moment I thought I might be in financial trouble.

  4. Buccaneer says:

    The only certainty of climate politics is that the greens and alp will find new and inventive ways to outlaw industrial activity with a view to absolutely destroying for profit organisations.

  5. bollux says:

    “Bottom line: the only thing now standing between you and guaranteed loss of wealth is… the Liberal Party.”
    How do you say “surrender’ in Aboriginal, if this is all that stands between us and an indigenous utopia of burning gum leaves?

  6. C.L. says:

    If you view it purely from political game playing Shanahan is kinda right.

    Only because News Corp and the Coalition and the BCA etc decided that not fighting the lies was the only way to protect their reputations in the eyes of the liars.

    As soon as you give up combatting the false premise of a thing, all that’s left for you is successive retreats.

  7. Buccaneer says:

    The problem for the libs is that the worst enemy resides in house. At every level, they have activists pretending to care about their party and the country who really only care about the agenda and the associated power, status and money that follows the gravy train. That a guy like Mat Kean can be close to the levers of power, shows how corrupted the game has become. Be a narcissist who really should have been cancelled by the me too movement, cover it up by spouting off all the green left inanities. It’s straight out of the democrats rinse and repeat handbook.

  8. Petros says:

    Suicide squad, attack!

  9. C.L. says:

    An inspired Simon Birmingham says he now wants the Coalition to lift its target for the next election to help End Da Klymit Wawz.

    Within 3 to 5 years, you’ll see the Liberal Party and the former Country Party talking up the sunny side of liquidating a certain percentage of cattle producers. They’ll say the “certainty” of shutting those graziers down is sound conservative/commercial policy. And if the Voice Chamber of Parliament is up and running, ‘advice’ will be forthcoming for the land to be handed over to ‘traditional owners.’

  10. Not Trampis says:

    The only extremists here are you lot.

    The target is very good for the economy as almost everyone agrees on.

    Only the latte sippers here want to build new coal fired power plants that not only take 8 years to build and then are twice as expensive as current uneconomic power plants. And their units will still break down because ( irony on irony) of the hotter weather they are exacerbating.

    you must be in heaven at present. Fossil fuels are causing massive price rises but no worries.

  11. Cassie of Sydney says:

    I wrote this last night on the Cat, Albanese has wedged the stupid effing Liberals who are now clutching at their nuclear pearls….yet those same nuclear pearls were missing all the way up to 21 May 2022…….

    “So Albanese holds a press conference today and mocks the Coalition for their new nuclear power position, saying that “they’re obsessed about it”. You wanna know something? Albanese is right to mock the stupid effing Liberals and Nationals for being obsessed with nuclear power. Because Albanese and Labor know that the stupid effing Liberals and Nationals are desperate, totally and utterly desperate. Albanese and Labor know they are wedging the stupid effing Liberals and Nationals who are desperately trying to scramble out of a big hole of their own making and so they have latched onto the idea of nuclear power because they know that is probably the only way they will ever win another federal election. Of course, you might ask why the stupid effing Liberals and Nationals didn’t spruik the idea of nuclear power when they were in power and before May’s election. But that would take courage and courage is not something we see in the stupid effing Liberal and National parties. So what has happened? Why the sudden change? Oh I know, it appears that the stupid effing Liberals and Nationals have woken up after their election drubbing to the world’s biggest hangover, knowing the reality that last year, under Scumbag the Shoddy Salesman, they sold their souls to the climate con when they capitulated in Glasgow to the ludicrous net zero emissions. That cowardly decision, that craven capitulation, was the biggest policy fuck up in generations by any political party, in one fell swoop the stupid effing Liberals and Nationals destroyed any hope of reelection in May of this year and probably for many years to come.”

    Quite a good rant!

  12. C.L. says:

    You wanna know something? Albanese is right to mock the stupid effing Liberals and Nationals for being obsessed with nuclear power.

    Yep.

    …the stupid effing Liberals and Nationals didn’t spruik the idea of nuclear power when they were in power and before May’s election.

    That’s not the key reason they’re easybeat muppets, though.

    As I’ve been saying for ages, you must fight the false premise; you must get under the root ball to successfully remove the weed. By raving on about nuclear, the Liberals (and all others who do this) are conceding to the wacko climateers that there is an existential threat from carbon dioxide in the first place. Once you make that mistake, there is no path to polemical victory.

  13. Petros says:

    Exactly CL. Stupid effing Liberals. They have still not learnt to control ANY narrative.

  14. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis

    The target is very good for the economy as almost everyone agrees on.

    You should get a copy of Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds. You won’t learn anything, but you will have no further excuse for your stupidity.

    Only the latte sippers here want to build new coal fired power plants that not only take 8 years to build and then are twice as expensive as current uneconomic power plants. And their units will still break down because ( irony on irony) of the hotter weather they are exacerbating.

    So tell us, oh great genius, how will intermittent solar and wind generators and expensive batteries provide the reliable, continuous, power needed to enable a modern society to function? You know, the generators that deliver nothing when the sun isn’t shining and the wind isn’t blowing? Perhaps the hot air of academic wankerdom can be harnessed? Or is that someone else’s problem?

  15. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis

    A majority of likely voters believe Democrats are responsible for plunging the United States into a recession, a Rasmussen Reports poll released on Wednesday found.

    US voters don’t seem to share your enthusiasm for the Biden Boom and its related low unemployment. Obviously, they need your wisdom to educate them in the glories of high fuel and power prices.

  16. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “That’s not the key reason they’re easybeat muppets, though.

    As I’ve been saying for ages, you must fight the false premise; you must get under the root ball to successfully remove the weed. By raving on about nuclear, the Liberals (and all others who do this) are conceding to the wacko climateers that there is an existential threat from carbon dioxide in the first place. Once you make that mistake, there is no path to polemical victory.”

    Correct C.L.

  17. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis

    Renewables developer Maoneng has confirmed that its 13MW Mugga Lane Solar Park in the Australian Capital Territory is up for sale after being placed into voluntary administration.

    This is your big chance to get in on the ground floor of the Ruinables economy. Buy, buy, buy. Think of all the delicious subsidies!

  18. Not Trampis says:

    hey bonehead,
    guess what. they are not all at the same place.
    The sun is shining in Australia and the wind is blowing as well. The more you have the more diverse they are in the country.

    The true intermittent power is via coal fired power stations because of their continuous breakdowns.

    you do score a lot of own goals.

    Only a moron would deny temperatuers are not risng over time in Australia.

  19. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis

    The sun is shining in Australia and the wind is blowing as well. The more you have the more diverse they are in the country.

    Hey Richard Cranium, they might be spread everywhere, but connecting them with transmission lines will cost (if the AnAl government is to be believed) at least $20 billion (provided as low cost loans, ie, subsidised, like everything else Ruinable). And then there is the issue of transmission losses, about which your head is buried deeply in the sand. There are also periods of multiple days when SE Australia has wind “droughts”.

    The Australian Energy Market Operator’s (AEMO) 2022 Integrated System Plan (ISP), published 30 July 2022, provides a 20-year plus forecast of the NEM’s infrastructure needs. The ISP shows we need more than 10,000 km of new transmission lines and 9 times the large scale renewable generation we currently have.

    So, we need more than 10,000 kms of new transmission lines, and increase the deployment of Ruinables to nine times the present scale. You babble on about redundant coal fired generation, but I doubt that we ever had nine times the required coal fired capacity. Maybe those Ruinables are less reliable than you think. Then there is the environmental destruction resulting from broad acre Ruinable generators and transmission lines across the nation.

    In 2020, we had around 36 GW of Ruinable capacity, which delivered around 63 TWh of electricity. Annual usage was in the vicinity of 190 TWh. In round figures, we will need 325 GW of Ruinable capacity to match demand (even before EVs are in widespread use).

    Dickwit.

  20. jupes says:

    Bottom line: the only thing now standing between you and guaranteed loss of wealth is… the Liberal Party.

    Oh dear. One of those craven idiots crossed the floor and voted with Labor and the Greens. The rest want a bigger target.

    Heard Bowen on the radio today banging on about renewables being the cheapest form of electricity generation. Imagine for a moment, if the SFLs, as C.L. says, fought the false premise, let alone the renewables bullshit. Imagine the fun that could be had in question time beclowning this utter tool.

    But no.

  21. Lee says:

    Heard Bowen on the radio today banging on about renewables being the cheapest form of electricity generation.

    Someone should tell Bowen: okay, you’ll be agreeable to immediately abolishing all subsidies and breaks for renewables then?
    Then watch his reaction.

  22. jupes says:

    Someone should tell Bowen

    Yes, someone should. Who, the SFLs? The press?

    If people had been asking such obvious questions, then the scam would never have got this far. But we are now at the stage where the arseclown can state that ‘renewables’ are the cheapest form of electricity while power bills skyrocket, and still get away with it.

  23. Lee says:

    In less than ten years the Liberal Party, state and federally, has managed to turn itself into no real opposition to Labor at all.
    They are not much better than the Greens, and in some cases worse.
    Remember in WA the Libs under Kirkup promising to out-green the Greens and getting slaughtered at the polls?
    On nearly every important policy the difference between the ALP and the Libs is almost infinitesimal.

  24. davefromweewaa says:

    Lee, the only difference between the liberal planet savers and the labor ones is who gets the loot. Turnbull, Photios and their cronies or the thugocracy of union heavies and their billionaire mates.
    Dunno how to rid the libs and Nats of planet savers but it must be done.

  25. C.L. says:

    Peter Dutton on Murray tonight with all the cost of living talking points but did not commit to escalating the climate wars along these lines…

    Via Gab:

    British MEP Godfrey Bloom who shows Dutton how it’s done:

    https://twitter.com/Yolo304741/status/1554625335228092417

  26. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis

    Only a moron would deny temperatuers are not risng over time in Australia.

    It would seem that the IPCC is a collection of morons.

    But sensible people knew that already, only pre-school failures didn’t.

    A leaked copy of a United Nations report, compiled by hundreds of scientists, shows politicians in Belgium, Germany, Hungary and the United States raised concerns about the final draft.

    Published next week, it is expected to address the fact that 1998 was the hottest year on record and world temperatures have not yet exceeded it, which scientists have so far struggled to explain.

    The report is the result of six years’ work by UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which is seen as the world authority on the extent of climate change and what is causing it – on which governments including Britain’s base their green policies.

  27. Franx says:

    The existential threat is in holding that we are in control.
    A trek up a somewhere like Etna teaches otherwise.

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