Rita The Beta Eater

31 Responses to Rita The Beta Eater

1. False Equivalence says:

   18 August, 2022 at 3:20 pm

   Amusing when a half arsed TV persona imagines that she is debating people who have actual duties and obligations. She’d set her hair on fire for a buck.
2. NoFixedAddress says:

   18 August, 2022 at 3:26 pm

   Amusing when Get Up get their panties in a twist.
3. Harpo says:

   18 August, 2022 at 3:42 pm

   “Actual duties and obligations”= lie on behalf of the left every waking moment about everything, or is that a false equivalence.
4. C.L. says:

   18 August, 2022 at 3:51 pm

   Interesting, FE.
   You’re now supporting a Bush Administration torturer.
5. Lee says:

   18 August, 2022 at 4:00 pm

   Those fifty-odd intelligence “experts”; a thoroughly discredited, disreputable and contemptible lot if ever I saw one.
   Especially Brennan and Clapper.

   Amusing when a half arsed TV persona imagines that she is debating people who have actual duties and obligations. She’d set her hair on fire for a buck.

   Careful, Prospero will be along to give you a fierce condemnation and lecture for your misogynistic abuse towards a conservative.
   Oh, wait …
6. False Equivalence says:

   18 August, 2022 at 4:12 pm

   Interesting CL: you are now running leftist memes
7. jupes says:

   18 August, 2022 at 4:34 pm

   … actual duties and obligations.

   Really? Sounds like a typical deep-state has-been. As his lie about Hunter Biden shows, he certainly has no duty or obligation to tell the truth. Useful idiot would be one way to describe him, scrote is much better.
8. Boambee John says:

   18 August, 2022 at 4:38 pm

   Falsies

   Interesting CL: you are now running leftist memes

   Or are they anti-fascist memes (fascism being quite clearly an ideology of the left)?
9. C.L. says:

   18 August, 2022 at 4:40 pm

   Well no, it’s not a meme. Hayden was a psychopathic enthusiast who once penned an entire article at the Wall Street Journal as a tribute to torture:

   Birthers, Truthers and Interrogation Deniers.

   For all of its well-deserved reputation for pragmatism, American popular culture frequently nurtures or at least tolerates preposterous views and theories. Witness the 9/11 “truthers” who, lacking any evidence whatsoever, claim that 9/11 was a Bush administration plot. And then we have the “birthers” who, even in the face of clear contrary evidence, take as an article of faith that President Obama was not born in the United States and hence is not eligible to hold his current office.

   Let me add a third denomination to this faith-based constellation: interrogation deniers, i.e., individuals who hold that the enhanced interrogation techniques used against CIA detainees have never yielded useful intelligence. They, of course, cling to this view despite all evidence to the contrary, despite the testimony of four CIA directors, and despite Mr. Obama’s chief counterterrorism adviser John Brennan’s statement that there’s been “a lot of information that has come out from these interrogation procedures that the agency has in fact used against the real hard-core terrorists.”

   The recent dispute over what strains of intelligence led to the killing of Osama bin Laden highlights the phenomenon. It must appear to outside observers like a theological debate over how many angels can reside on the head of a pin. So we see carefully tailored arguments designed to discount the value of enhanced interrogations: the first mention of the courier’s name came from a detainee not in CIA custody; CIA detainees gave false and misleading information about the courier; there is no way to confirm that information obtained through enhanced interrogation was the decisive intelligence that led us directly to bin Laden.

   All fair enough as far as they go. But let the record show that when I was first briefed in 2007 about the brightening prospect of pursuing bin Laden through his courier network, a crucial component of the briefing was information provided by three CIA detainees, all of whom had been subjected to some form of enhanced interrogation. One of the most alerting pieces of evidence was that two of the detainees who had routinely been cooperative and truthful (after they had undergone enhanced techniques) were atypically denying apparent factual data—a maneuver taken as a good sign that the CIA was on to something important.

   So that there is no ambiguity, let me be doubly clear: It is nearly impossible for me to imagine any operation like the May 2 assault on bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, that would not have made substantial use of the trove of information derived from CIA detainees, including those on whom enhanced techniques had been used.

   It is easy to imagine the concerns at the political level as the CIA built its case that bin Laden was in the Abbottabad compound, and it became obvious that detainee data was an important thread of intelligence. To his credit, and obviously reflecting this reality, White House spokesman Jay Carney has not denied that fact but correctly pointed out that there were multiple co-dependent threads that led to this success.

   In response to a direct question on the CBS Evening News about enhanced interrogation and the bin Laden success, CIA Director Leon Panetta confirmed on May 3 that, “Obviously there was some valuable information that was derived through those kind of interrogations.” He also added that it was an “open question” whether the information could have been elicited through other means, implicitly contradicting those who claim that other means would have produced the same information.

   Let me add that this is not a discussion about the merits or the appropriateness of any interrogation technique. Indeed, I personally took more than half of the techniques (including waterboarding) off the table in 2007 because American law had changed, our understanding of the threat had deepened, and we were now blessed with additional sources of information. We can debate what was appropriate then, or now, but this is a discussion about a particular historical fact: Information derived from enhanced interrogation techniques helped lead us to bin Laden.

   And so those who are prone to condemn the actions of those who have gone before (while harvesting the fruits of their efforts) might take pause. I’ve been personally asked about the appropriateness of waterboarding and—recognizing the immense challenge of balancing harsh treatment with saving innocent lives—usually respond: “I thank God that I did not have to make that decision.” At the same time, I thank those who preceded me, made such decisions and thereby spared me the worst of the dilemma. Those who deny the usefulness of enhanced interrogation techniques might consider similar caution.

   But if they cannot or will not, shouldn’t they be true to their faith? If they truly believe that these interrogations did not and could not yield useful intelligence, they should demand that the CIA identify all the information derived directly or indirectly from enhanced interrogation. And then they should insist the agency destroy it. They should also insist that significant portions of the 9/11 Commission Report be rescinded, as it too was based on this data. This would be perfectly consistent with the interrogation deniers’ transcendental faith that nothing of use could have come from enhanced interrogations after 9/11.

   Strange that we have not heard such calls, even from the most ardent interrogation deniers. Perhaps they are not really like “birthers” and “truthers” after all. Perhaps, when all the public ideological posturing is done, and they are through attacking both their opponents’ arguments and their character, they quietly concede to themselves that facts really do matter.

   Now that’s something I’d like to have faith in.
10. Passing By says:

    18 August, 2022 at 4:45 pm

    BJ: fascism is typically corporatist. It has at times adopted socialist rhetoric. But the big winners have been the industrial and financial backers. A description quite well suited to trump as it happens.
11. Boambee John says:

    18 August, 2022 at 4:49 pm

    Passing Wind

    Fascism is a form of political collusion between large corporates and Big Government.

    The big winners were the governments, who let the corporates make profits in exchange for subservience to the government.
12. Lee says:

    18 August, 2022 at 4:52 pm

    Time was that a leftist wouldn’t admire, much less trust one of the U.S. alphabet groups (CIA, FBI, NSA) if his or her life depended on it.
    Or hold up the likes of someone like Hayden, Brennan or Clapper as someone whose opinions and thoughts should be respected.
13. Lee says:

    18 August, 2022 at 4:55 pm

    I am sure Trump as a businessman would have loved government interference and oversight in his businesses (/sarc off).
14. C.L. says:

    18 August, 2022 at 5:12 pm

    The only sympathy I might have for Hayden would be born of the reality that washed-up ‘intelligence’ Johnnies in America are like big-name Scientologists. They have to go along with the current war on Trump or certain information about them will find its way from the Langley archives and on to the front page of American Pravda (aka The New York Times). They can have a good life (like John Travolta) but they know what they have to do.
15. Passing By says:

    18 August, 2022 at 5:40 pm

    CL: seems like the only people not in the conspiracy are trumpists?
16. Boambee John says:

    18 August, 2022 at 5:50 pm

    Passing Wind

    Perhaps that is an indication of the target?
17. Passing By says:

    18 August, 2022 at 6:34 pm

    BJ: or that trumpists are paranoid?
18. Boambee John says:

    18 August, 2022 at 6:37 pm

    Stick to passing wind, psychology is not your forte.
19. and says:

    18 August, 2022 at 7:27 pm

    Stick to passing wind, psychology is not your forte.

    The ephemeralist‘s forte, together with his tosser buddies Snot and Waltz Ambivalence, appears to be CRAP.
20. Tel says:

    18 August, 2022 at 9:48 pm

    Seems like the General is uncomfortable around a strong, articulate woman.
21. Not Trampis says:

    19 August, 2022 at 10:10 am

    err the ONLY people who knows what is on the laptop is the FBI.

    They have had it for a long time. nothing has occurred thus far. Nothing has been leaked out which usually occurs if something ‘bad’ is on there.

    A lot of hot wind is being made on a subject no-one knows about
22. Boambee John says:

    19 August, 2022 at 10:53 am

    Non Mentis
    
    err the ONLY people who knows what is on the laptop is the FBI.

    Errr, no. There are other copies around.

    Nothing has been leaked out which usually occurs if something ‘bad’ is on there.

    Not if the “something bad” might have an adverse effect on a DemonRat.
    
    A lot of hot wind is being made on a subject no-one knows about

    Most of it from you and your lefty tool mates.
23. Not Trampis says:

    19 August, 2022 at 10:58 am

    Show us the money then.

    If so and there was something bad it would be public.
    We don’t. We only have bozos like you inferring claptrap.

    Tells you something right there.

    since you are not very bright the FBI leaks badly as you might expect if someone should be charged and is not and is in the public spotlight.

    Strange that the very dopes who say Biden should be charged are very vague about the charges. Well it isn’t very strange.
24. Boambee John says:

    19 August, 2022 at 11:09 am

    Non Mentis
    
    If so and there was something bad it would be public.

    Interesting that you don’t regard photos of Hunter cavorting naked with prostitutes while snorting a suspicious looking white powder as not “bad”. Would you take the same attitude to Trump Jnr doing the same things?

    since you are not very bright the FBI leaks badly as you might expect if someone should be charged and is not and is in the public spotlight.

    Since you are not very bright, the FBI leaks badly only when the leaks can be used against Republicans.

    Strange that the very dopes who say Biden should be charged are very vague about the charges. Well it isn’t very strange.

    The president’s son snorting what could be illegal drugs while cavorting with prostitutes isn’t potentially illegal? Who would have guessed?
25. Boambee John says:

    19 August, 2022 at 11:10 am

    PS, and mentions of “10% for the Big Guy”. Nothing to see there?
26. Not Trampis says:

    19 August, 2022 at 11:55 am

    huh, photos prove what?

    what is the crime?
    I see people who believe BLM organised demonstrations in Portland 4 years before they even existed now doesn’t understand what occurred in 2016. Leaks involved clinton but none about trump who was also been investigated. typical.

    Again what is the crime? you mean to tell me that the laptop has no information of this partying at all?

    big guy is who exactly? I see you have never been near the justice system.
    I know you have no idea but it would be rather easy to discover if a person was hiding income offshore.
27. Boambee John says:

    19 August, 2022 at 12:24 pm

    Non Mentis
    
    I see people who believe BLM organised demonstrations in Portland 4 years before they even existed now doesn’t understand what occurred in 2016.

    I see that the so-called “progressive” isn’t aware that riots inspired by fascist leftists can occur in more than a single year.

    Again what is the crime? you mean to tell me that the laptop has no information of this partying at all?

    Again with the limited reading comprehension. No, slow reader, the comments referred to images actually on the laptop.

    big guy is who exactly? I see you have never been near the justice system.
    I know you have no idea but it would be rather easy to discover if a person was hiding income offshore.

    If the material on the laptop is to be believed, the “Big Guy” is Creepy Joe. That you seem unaware of this material suggests that you have developed the habit of avoiding any information that might contradict your “narrative”.

    As for offshore income, can you assure us that all “offshore” accounts have now been closed, since their value as a hiding place for “interesting” income has now been demolished? The Swiss, Cayman Island, and other authorities will be most fascinated by your thesis.
28. Not Trampis says:

    19 August, 2022 at 12:49 pm

    so the Portland man now had evidence Joe Biden has committed a crime.
    Well not exactly. He cannot enunciate what the crime is at all. Any crime.

    sorry but you said this all all out in the public.
    If it is and it is solid it would be big news.
    It isn’t. you are a liar.

    to idiots who have no idea of how a justice system operates people who have accounts in tax havens and the rest will bring it home at some stage to spend it.
    They even do this right here in Australia.
    It would be VERY easy too do this in Biden’s cae as his tax records have been made public.

    you really are a quite ignorant person aren’t you.
29. Boambee John says:

    19 August, 2022 at 1:33 pm

    If it is and it is solid it would be big news.

    The intellectual giant Non Mentis is completely unaware of the censorship exerted by the MSM and on-line systems like Twatter to shelter protected classes, like DemonRats. Sad, low energy.

    It isn’t. you are a liar.

    Having no logical argument, Non Mentis resorts to abuse. Sad, low energy.

    people who have accounts in tax havens and the rest will bring it home at some stage to spend it.

    Will they? Is there nothing on which they could spend it overseas? Recall that some ultra wealthy people could not possibly spend their wealth in a lifetime, but still don’t want the taxperson to get it. Non Mentis seems to have led a very sheltered life.

    It would be VERY easy too do this in Biden’s cae as his tax records have been made public.

    Non Mentis still thinks that frauds will always declare their fraudulent income on their tax returns. Definitely lived a very sheltered life. Sad, low energy.

    He is a very ill-informed person.
30. Not Trampis says:

    19 August, 2022 at 2:07 pm

    Show us the evidence then, Indeed show us the evidence the MSM is suppressing anything. the FBI have not announced anything. How can you suppress nothing? Duh

    Not abuse. Truth. you claimed something that does not exist.

    Newsflash, Biden is not superwealthy.

    No idiot, Having a tax return that is public makes it much easier to follow money trails and inquire of monies not in said tax return.

    you are not very bright are you and quite ignorant on sooo many subjects.
31. Boambee John says:

    19 August, 2022 at 3:51 pm

    Non Mentis

    Show us the evidence then, Indeed show us the evidence the MSM is suppressing anything. the FBI have not announced anything. How can you suppress nothing? Duh

    Are you really that stupid. “Nothing has appeared, therefore nothing can have been suppressed”? Seriously?

    Newsflash, Biden is not superwealthy.

    Prove it.

    Having a tax return that is public makes it much easier to follow money trails and inquire of monies not in said tax return.

    Amazing. Financial fraud has been eliminated from the world. Idiot.