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I am always amused when climate deniers say windmills kills birds. so do aeroplanes, so do buildings in any CBD, the higher the worse it is, so do coal fired power stations.
It reminds me of the time Texas lost electricity and they blamed windmills which were not winterised. windmills can operate successfully in Anarctica but not in Texas when it snows
That’s 140,000 to 328,000 per year more than coal fired power stations.
I’m always amused when globular warmenists screech “climate denier”, like a Bunnings Karen on steroids. Even though the dozen or so PPM CO2 in the atmosphere, attributable to man’s activities, is doing sweet F.A. to the world’s temperatures. And despite Svensmark’s theory of cosmic ray/solar wind/sunspot interactions with the earth’s magnetic field, being the primary driver of climate variation.
Meanwhile, more and more windmills go up in coastal and rural locations. Which often means that native forests and wilderness are cleared in the process. How green is killing off the habitat of these birds in the first place. Even Bob Brown baulked at that in Tasmania.
I know who the real deniers are.
A billion birds a year, birdy carcasses must be more common in the us than human poop on San Francisco streets…
Non Mentis
I am always amused when climate deniers say windmills kills birds.
Bob Brown is a “climate denier”? Who knew?
The “pro-wind turbines even though they kill millions of birds (including many rarer ones, like eagles) crowd”, are the same mob who are opposed to any development or mining project that might effect one particular example of wildlife.
They are also the same people who are opposed to dams, despite Dams occupying less habit to execute the same function, don’t need to have 100 metre long turbine blades buried every 7 years, don’t kill birds, but do support their own habitat.
Just a passing thought (sorry about that), exactly how big does a feral cat have to be to take on and beat a golden eagle (or even a mature barn owl)?
buildings are estimated to kill more buildings than windmills. Is Trump going to pull down his buildings?
Trump is in your head buddy. Buildings killing buildings, comparing inanimate objects to giant bird shredders. Besides that the comparison is ridiculous, no one with half a brain doesn’t think the parks and wildlife number grossly over estimate non windmill bird deaths and grossly under estimate death by virtue signalling bird mincer.
Non Mentis
buildings are estimated to kill more buildings than windmills
Nasty, nasty, buildings, worse than feral cats. Do you either live or work in a building? Out on the street with you.
That reminds me. When or when is the government going to introduce a moggy bounty?
Maybe ten bucks for every tail sent in?
Entropy
And suddenly, all our feral cats are Manx cats?
Save the birds!
Tear down every building, including houses and apartments!
An unintended consequence, BJ.
An unintended consequence.
The problem is the tail doesn’t grow back for another bounty.
Easy enough to do though, just grab a wheat sack and cut one of the bottom corners out. Stick the tail out through there and you can do your, umm, surgery, without getting scratched. Also works for castration rather well.
Anecdote of support:
eldest grand-daughter is working in Perisher.
Until recently she was a Greta Thunberg-inspired devotee of global warming.
This season’s early start and late dump have her now a denier of global warming but she has found a new religion in catastrophic climate change.
Ugh!
Is that billion birds killed by cats each year across the whole world or just in America? And is it an African or a European swallow?
Windmills kill the large and normally long lived birds like wedgetail eagles, black cockatoos, etc … even the gnarly feral cats leave those things alone.
Cats kill pigeons, sparrows and starlings … those are fast breeding, small birds and every city is full of them. Most of the nature loving environmentalists don’t know the first thing about nature … predatory animals kill weaker animals … it ain’t a Disney movie out there where they form a chorus line and sing folk songs arm in arm … cats are killers, eagles and hawks are every bit as savage.
Complaining about the pigeons killed by cats is much like wanting to save all the mice killed by cats … the mice won’t thank you.
Not Trampis says:
25 August, 2022 at 3:20 pm
buildings are estimated to kill more buildings than windmills.
Snot, that’s brilliant!
Just to jump ahead of the narrative: Harry Butler, “In the Wild”,, who was inducted into an aboriginal tribe, said “The aborigines are the best naturalists, but the worst conservationists.”
When the greens openly volunteer to provide habitat for the endangered pubic hair lice, I’ll take them seriously.
A profound take by a man who knew what he was talking about.
Even Flannery argued that the Aborigines burned and hunted the mega-fauna to extinction.
CL
Even Flannery argued that the Aborigines burned and hunted the mega-fauna to extinction.
And then spent the next couple of decades supporting every green fantasy, just to atone for his impertinence, and get back on the invite list for all the best dinner parties.
The expression “Climate Denier” seems to refer to people who deny there is a climate, which makes usage of the term a bit stupid and dishonest. A more truthful expression would be people who question that Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming has been caused by human CO 2 emissions since circa 1750.
Windmills, Balsa Wood, Amazon Destruction, Environment Disasters.
Heck, this is such a good site. So many incisive and witty comments.
CL, thanks and God bless. This is serious work. I drive through Canberra to the Latin Mass, weekly and on major feasts, passing all the federal department buildings and think “What the **** do they do?”
When people actually do a study they find that each wind turbine kills about 200 birds and 400 bats on average per year. There’re something like 500,000 of the things in operation now, so you can do the sums.
He’s seems to be quoting from the notorious Dr Sovacool, who is a wind turbine industry consultant and proponent. When they’re cited I’ve demolished Sovacool’s papers many times in blog conversations with lefties. I would not be surprised if Dr Sovacool is on a US F&WS retainer.
How many Wedgetail Eagles do cats kill every year? How many sparrows fly through a windmill?
Sparrows don’t have to fly through a windmill. There’s a thing called “barotrauma”. That’s when the pressure differences caused by the rapidly moving blades burst the lungs of small flying creatures. It’s the key problem behind bat mortality in particular.
So the real figure is in the millions per annum, Bruce?
And then there are the panels…
There is now talk (cf. Bolt last night with the story) of Australia ‘needing’ solar panels that would cover the equivalent of three Tasmanias.
Totally agree Hugh.
CL
Already, wind farms are leading to massive losses of trees and that favourite enviro theme, “habitat”. How much more destruction of natural forests will be needed to satisfy the ruinable Moloch?
Macron Warns ‘End of Abundance, Carefree Time’
As opposed to the infinitesimally smaller spaces needed for coal mines, coal power stations, and nuclear facilities.
When you consider the extreme inefficiency of wind/solar versus coal/gas/hydro/nuclear the comparison is even much worse for the former.
Didn’t even Bob Brown say something to the effect “no wind turbines in my backyard”?
Incidentally, I did read somewhere that the only thing that prevented the complete decimation of Europe’s forests as fuel was the use of coal from the mid-eighteenth century onward.
Given that solar panels last at best 20 years, where will the acres of waste go? Some of us remember when paper shopping bags were evil and needed to be abolished to save the forests. Now their back and it plastic bags that are evil.
It’s all straight to the forgettery for the compliant msm.
MSM… sub-set of The Parasite Class.
He was unhappy that the windfarm off the northern coast of Tassie would kill his white-bellied sea eagles. Which it will do.
Albo now wants to widely infest Bass Strait with the wretched things, which is horrendously uneconomic as well as being nasty to the wildlife. Ah well maybe the Tassie ferry will run a few of them over during the night crossings. One can hope.
Windmills, Balsa Wood, Amazon Destruction, Environment Disasters. Balsa wood? Please explain.
I see your Macron, NFA, and I raise you a Harry.
Eyrie … apparently the blades are cored with balsa wood (light, cheap), sheathed in fibreglass. I assume a lot of balsa wood comes from the Amazon? Irrespective, that’s a hell of a lot of balsa wood going into landfill near you sometime in the next decade or so …..
Bruce, I know what those critters are going through.
I get barrowtrauma every time I stop ruling the world from my computer and go out to do some gardening for an hour.
Cheers.