Confidential Anonymous

The Hawthorn racism review is a small version of the national Maoism that a “Voice” will unleash:

I don’t believe that it is fair for people who have had the courage to come forward on a confidential anonymous basis in this report, to then release [their names]. They were given a commitment it would be confidential. They were given a commitment they would be de-identified. Unless that changes, it’s very difficult to release the report.”

His Honour Mr Justice Gillon McLachlan AFL didn’t say why coaches Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan weren’t afforded the same rights as their courageously anonymous accusers
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33 Responses to Confidential Anonymous

  1. Shy Ted says:

    I like this from their ABC –

    WARNING: This story contains details of self-harm, pregnancy loss, and intergenerational trauma for Indigenous people

    They then go on to subtly describe the adverse influences of players families and how that will prevent them from making the grade. One of the reasons nothing gets done in Ab communities is because family issues are so distracting.

  2. C.L. says:

    On the upside, the ABC has finally found an abortion it doesn’t approve of.

  3. NoFixedAddress says:

    I call it manufactured bullshit.

    To blatantly vilify Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan is just despicable.

    40 years ago I voted against the formation of the AFL and I have seen nothing to change my reasoning from then.

  4. Franx says:

    Yes, our ABC.
    Abortion is not health care, after all.
    In light of which truth, let’s call it pregnancy loss, omitting that it is induced.

  5. Lee says:

    40 years ago I voted against the formation of the AFL and I have seen nothing to change my reasoning from then.

    The rot really set in during Andrew Demetriou’s time, although his predecessor, Wayne Jackson wasn’t perfect.
    It has got even worse since with all the virtue-signalling and pandering to minorities.
    I lost all interest in the AFL thanks to Demetriou and the way the game was heading.

  6. Not Trampis says:

    manufactured. The woman did not miscarry?
    you are an idiot.

    The behaviour shown in this is deplorable and no-one involved should be in the sport any longer

  7. Franx says:

    Anonymity, and unsworn evidence given in closed sessions, was also the prerogative of accusers in the various child sexual abuse commissions.

  8. Boxcar says:

    For god’s sake, what coach or leader would not and does not have the gumption to tell his young playersto take care of themselves and others, behave and beware of false friends, or to tell them face to face the possible consequences of their behaviour.
    I gather the faceless dobbers were the usual hanger onners at the time.
    Perhaps even the various Coterie members or club donors who pay for play, to access these kids.

    And, the giant tool running the AFL has sold out to the politicians, probably has wet dreams about his own ambitions.
    Where does his responsibility and accountability end for bringing a bunch of overmoneyed kids into that Crown Den of Iniquity??

  9. C.L. says:

    The behaviour shown in this is deplorable and no-one involved should be in the sport any longer

    Here we go again.
    Ben Roberts-Smith found guilty by you yesterday. Now these two.

    How did you become a Chinese communist who hates the rule of law?

  10. Lee says:

    I think many on the left would love a reversal of the “old-fashioned” notion of “innocent until proven guilty,” C.L., especially when it involves alleged sex crimes.
    I have to agree with my late friend who always maintained that it should be “innocent unless proven guilty.”

  11. Morsie says:

    It’s like pronouncing guilty verdict after the prosecution case and before the defence has opened their case

  12. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis favours the Queen of Hearts system of jurisprudence. Execution first, then trial.

  13. Riversutra says:

    It’s called “humbugging”

    Family humbug is also identified as a main source of concern for Aboriginal communities’ family worries.

    Young bloke comes to play for some good money and the relatives see a gravy train.
    Becomes too much for the young bloke and his life becomes a mess trying to maintain the discipline the club expects and the demands of his extended family.
    All the effort of the club to get him settled and focused is pissed away.
    So, the club is blamed because the “confidential informers” are always the victims. See Pell for how this is done.
    Always were, always will be, Victims. Money please.

  14. NoFixedAddress says:

    Riversutra says:
    21 September, 2022 at 5:15 pm

    It’s called “humbugging”

    absolutely

  15. C.L. says:

    As Andrew Bolt correctly pointed out tonight, even if a player or players were treated disrespectfully or nastily, that doesn’t mean the motivation was racist. Everyone who knows anything about AFL and NRL clubs knows they are utterly ruthless about shaping their players and getting a result.

  16. NoFixedAddress says:

    @realTrampis

    It is sad to read your pig ignorant comments.

    When those that can actually do things “go Galt”, what will you do?

  17. NoFixedAddress says:

    Lee says:
    21 September, 2022 at 4:12 pm

    40 years ago I voted against the formation of the AFL and I have seen nothing to change my reasoning from then.

    Lee

    My concern back then was for the individual player taken from his “home” club.

  18. NoFixedAddress says:

    C.L. says:
    21 September, 2022 at 7:30 pm

    Exactly C.L.

    They, AFL and NRL, are football factories that consume young athletes and spit them out.

  19. Davey Boy says:

    right on schedule, Impart Snot broadcasts to the world

  20. jupes says:

    This does not look good for the three accused blokes. Firstly, the usual suspects have been dragged out in the media and are carrying on as if every allegation is true. No one in the media has the guts to aggressively question a ‘first nation’ ex-player. Secondly, if the accused eventually are exonerated, it will lead to accusations of bias and racism by the media. That won’t be good for the AFL. Thirdly, I am worried about a biased Kings Council being appointed to head the AFL inquiry, but more than that, the panel will also consist of more than one ‘culturally appropriate’ ‘first nations’ person. It’s got stitch up written all over it.

    Let’s not forget, this all started because Cyril Rioli’s wife claimed that Jeff Kennett chipped her for wearing frayed jeans. She reckoned this was racial abuse. Despite the best efforts of the press, this was largely regarded as lame sooking by the great unwashed. Nevertheless, the Hawks stupidly decided to have an inquiry, which led to these more serious allegations. Could it be that this time, they’ve spiced it up a tad? Probably doesn’t matter for the accused now though. They’re fucked.

  21. cuckoo says:

    I remember the good old days when footy ‘scandals’ like this only blew up if a sitting ALP government had something it needed to keep off the front pages.

  22. MatrixTransform says:

    seems like The Voice can already be heard

  23. Buccaneer says:

    The most disgusting aspect of this is the Hawthorn CEO saying this is Australia’s problem. Now if that were actually true, there would have been no investigation, the press would have seen no issue with it and it would be business as usual. Should the allegations be true, they should be in for major trouble.

    In some part, the AFL has also bought this on themselves, they have fostered a culture where there is more drama off the field than on it. This is just an extension of that culture. Should they be fantastic claims, whether validated or not, that is hardly an isolated incident regardless of the background of the players involved.

    If they are not fantastic claims and Hawthorn had someone doing this, they need to go for a row.

    Regardless, the Hawthorn Ceo would be well advised to make a grovelling apology for smearing all Australians.

  24. Not Trampis says:

    CL I said nothing about BRS. you are missing your blue pills or simply making things up again.
    I would like to know how this is national maoism.

  25. C.L. says:

    I can’t explain every allusion and comparison to you, Trampo. I’m not your Jill Biden.

  26. C.L. says:

    In some part, the AFL has also bought this on themselves, they have fostered a culture where there is more drama off the field than on it.

    It has long been my impression that fans enjoy the off-field carry-ons so much because the game itself is unwatchable garbage.

  27. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis

    CL I said nothing about BRS. you are missing your blue pills or simply making things up again.
    I would like to know how this is national maoism.

    CL put up a thread specifically discussing B R-S. You jumped in, babbling on about “documented” allegations. Now, you are trying to suggest that you said (nor even implied) nothing about B R-S? Pull the other one.

    As usual, you shot off your mouth, and now have to walk your stupidity back.

  28. C.L. says:

    Something the AFL and the ARU have in common is that both have been taken over by cultural elites – with corporate backing and political encouragement. The result for rugby union has been dire. The game is now so ‘safety’/image-conscious and riddled with rules that it is un-playable.

    The NRL has been able to hang on to its scrappy culture only because big money interests know that its core demographic has always been working class. If they go too far poshing up the game, they will end up destroying their own profits.

    Ultimately, sports in Australia are now QANGOS because their clubs and ruling authorities take money for stadiums etc from the state. The same thing has happened in racing. It is now more or less a government-owned revenue stream. Note also that, unlike cigs and alcohol, the advertising for gambling has grown exponentially. With traditional bookmakers reduced to the margins, government-controlled betting is being pushed everywhere, 24-7 (even DURING games).

    All of these factors are connected.

  29. Buccaneer says:

    It has long been my impression that fans enjoy the off-field carry-ons so much because the game itself is unwatchable garbage.

    Indeed, although my thought was the motivation is also to dominate media air time. They pulled a similar domination stunt in Sydney years ago by grossly inflating junior participation rates then lobbying councils to have grounds allocated exclusively to them, they famously tried this with Birchgrove oval which is the birthplace of rugby league. They did succeed in kicking off several stubbies rugby clubs from grounds in western Sydney. Since then the terrible admin of the aru has seen junior clubs melt away anyway, it’s a game in the death throes.

    The afl just care about pushing everything and everyone else out, so they are constantly vying for any attention grabbing stunt. In these times that is woke.

  30. Riversutra says:

    According to Wilson, the AFL will announce the four-person panel on either Thursday or Friday. It will include two women and two indigenous representatives, with Gillon McLachlan confirming on Wednesday it would contain the “right mix of diversity“.

    What could possibly be fairer?

  31. Terry says:

    Riversutra says:
    22 September, 2022 at 11:37 am
    What could possibly be fairer?

    This should be a ratings boom for the AFL!
    Will the guilty witches float or will they be posthumously forgotten?
    – because justice and diversity.
    The whole horrible edifice deserves to burn to the ground, the ashes buried deeply, and the earth above them salted.

  32. C.L. says:

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  33. Lee says:

    According to Wilson, the AFL will announce the four-person panel on either Thursday or Friday. It will include two women and two indigenous representatives, with Gillon McLachlan confirming on Wednesday it would contain the “right mix of diversity”.

    Here’s an original thought: how about people who are actually qualified for the job, not because of sex or race?

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