The Board made clear that, despite these not being views that Andrew Thorburn has expressed personally and that were also made prior to him taking up his role as Chairman, he couldn’t continue to serve in his dual roles at the Essendon Football Club and as Chairman of City on the Hill… I also want to stress that this is not about vilifying anyone for their personal religious beliefs, but about a clear conflict of interest with an organisation whose views do not align at all with our values…”
– Essendon boss Dave Barham. Image: Fr Claudio Acquaviva, originator of the club’s motto
These truths (not “views”) are entirely orthodox. Indeed, they are the same as those propounded in the Catechism of the Catholic Church whose most recent iteration was overseen by two of the most revered intellectual giants of modern history: Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI. As always, when somebody alludes to the Shoah, a reporter ran dobbing to the Anti-Defamation Commission whose chairman, Dr Dvir Abramovich, dutifully provided the usual on-file lecturette. Not content to speak for the world’s Jews (spoiler alert: he doesn’t), Dr Abramovich also presumes to chastise Thorburn the Christian for “your opposition to a women’s autonomy over her body.” Most crimes – even most enormities – should not be compared to the Holocaust but the soulless monsters who decapitate, disembowel and dismember babies and slaughter the imperfect must be compared to their Third Reich predecessors. Not to do so is the truly wicked insult to the memory of Hitler’s six million Jewish victims. No, Dr Abramovich, we will not stop making this comparison because it is irrefutable and axiomatic to any properly formed conscience.
Essendon CEO Andrew Thorburn linked to controversial church, City on a Hill.
“Inclusion & diversity” up close.
Oh well, that’s okay then…
The diversity blob consumes all. Because tolerance.
No Muslim CEO for them either, then.
what has entry into heaven to do with a sporting club?
I mean by pentecostal standards that isn’t even fire and brimstone
Mr Thorburn appears to have been an employee, as CEO, of the football club. The position under the Fair Work Act is clear. An employer must not take adverse action against a person who is an employee because of the person’s “religion” or “political opinion” amongst other things. See section 351 of that Act.
The football club says his position as their employee is inconsistent with the position he holds in a church. He can not hold both positions. That is a clear case of adverse action because of his religion.
Why is the Fair Work Ombudsman not immediately instituting proceedings against the football club for this egregious breach of the law?
Why are not the civil libertarians, Law Societies, Bar Associations and the like not plainly speaking out and condemning this unlawful behaviour?
I think we know the reason for the silence.
And it’s only weeks away from the Sicktorian elections…
Diktater Dan is blessed with that opposition Guy so someone like the new Essendon FC chairman speaking like this will have the branches whipped into a frenzy.
Graham says:,
Because the Fair Work Ombudsman is a political construction for use against ideological opponents. The provisions within the Act are political cudgels of convenience, for selective use only. They must never be applied fairly nor impartially to achieve actual justice.
Federal ICAC will be a fastidiously crafted approximation.
When playing such political games it is always best to own the umpire/referee, especially the “independent” ones.
A pre-stacked Supreme Court might be used in a similar fashion to stitch up an innocent man in the hope that the High Court won’t intervene to overturn the travesty (Epic Fail).
We cannot have “progress” AND justice – they simply don’t mix.
Remember, “Social” means Anti-, hence “Social Justice Warriors”, “Social Democratic”, “Social Security”.
While “Anti-” means Actual, hence “Anti-fascist”, “Anti-racist”, “Anti-discrimination”
A great commentary Terry.
Thank you.
Why is a person’s religion any business of a sporting club, league, or organisation?
Let’s face it, if he was a Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist this would not even be an issue, and we would be hearing crickets.
Regarding abortion – analogies aid in the reflection even though they break down readily especially since the killing of the unborn, and of the partially born, is currently not only disguised and valorised as a facet of the health care industry but is also shrouded in unmentionable death-dealings involving the lucrative and hubristic exploitation of lifeless (or not) body parts. Even so, it’s all above board, and for the common good, making for rare analogies.
Non Mentis
what has entry into heaven to do with a sporting club?
Sport is the new religion. Get on board, or be left behind.
pentecostal churches do not involve fire and brimstone. evangelical churches do.
They are more about the satanic prosperity gospel.
Headline is somewhat ambiguous I reckon.
To Putin a Christian is specifically a Russian Orthodox Christian.
The others like Evangelicals are perceived as western trash and are persecuted.
Putin is in no way shape of form himself a Christian.
That said, totally agree with you CL about the Essendon thing. Not that I have any interest in football or whatever the club is.
Today’s Australia is an intolerant post-Christian country rapidly degenerating on many fronts.
The headline doesn’t mention Putin, Chris.
Oooh lookie, the pre-school failure Non Mentis is now an eggspurt on religion.
The Hunchback doubles down:
Responding to Guy’s criticism, Andrews said on Wednesday he had simply answered a question and had been a long-standing supporter of LGBTQ+ and abortion rights.
“I think that termination services are a private matter between a woman and her doctor. And I will speak out against people who seek to intrude on that. I absolutely will. I also voted to make sure that people don’t intrude on that,” Andrews said.
“What’s more, when it comes to rampant homophobia, when I lead the Pride March every year, I do that with a sense of genuine concern and support and commitment to make sure that every LGBTQ+ Victorian is safe, protected and valued. If I’m to be criticised for that, well, so be it.”
Andrews said suicide rates were significantly higher for LGBTQ+ people than the broader community and added “this is not about who runs a footy club, this is about issues much bigger than that”.
“People can get all upset by the fact someone resigned, I’m much more focused concerned by the fact that people are harming themselves and sometimes taking their own lives because of bigotry and prejudice,” he said.
When asked whether Thorburn’s resignation showed people with conservative religious beliefs needed to hide their opinions in a public role, Andrews said: “No. They might want to have a think about whether they want to be a bit more kind-hearted. A bit more inclusive. Aren’t we all God’s children?”
RTWT
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/victorian-opposition-leader-laments-essendon-ceo-s-resignation-criticises-premier-s-comments-20220924-p5bkoy.html
Abramovich and the ADL does not speak for me!
Jane Carosene, a “moral compass” not unlike Notty, posits in her typical crass way:
Dear fundamentalists Christians, it is not really a defensible argument to claim that stopping you from discriminating against others is discrimination against you. Maybe just live & let live?
https://twitter.com/JaneCaro/status/1577453518470123520?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Indeed, the media would be applauding the fact that all Essendon players must now wear beards and only kick goals in the direction of Mecca. Also the ritual beheading of the former Essendon AFLW team.
well, not babies apparently.
Technically correct. Even the Spawn of Satan.
Have any Liberals rushed to speak up for Thorburn?
If they did would the media cover it?
Ow that we know the standard Jane Caro applies, I expect she’ll be hounding all the Muslim MPs from the greens and labour
Says an arch-hypocrite who coerces people into being vaccinated against their wishes – or else …
Have any Liberals rushed to speak up for Thorburn?
In the Age article linked above, Guy… what’s his name? Guy… That Guy guy.
At least the Archbishop of Melbourne has spoken out.
Thorburn’s beliefs and those of his fellow travellers are beliefs which they apply only to themselves while leaving it open for others to accept their ideas or no.
In contrast:
Andrews’s beliefs (he says he ‘believes’ in the causes of woman’s rights and those of the LGBTQ people) and those of his fellow travellers are beliefs which they apply to themselves while leaving it not open for others to accept their ideas or no. So, it’s,“‘Peace, peace”, they say when there is no peace.’ Nor tolerance, nor inclusiveness, nor justice.
“People can get all upset by the fact someone resigned, I’m much more focused concerned by the fact that people are harming themselves and sometimes taking their own lives because of bigotry and prejudice,” he said
The Dictator is always quoting facts about LGBTQ+ people harming themselves & suicide. I would suggest that these number ( who knows how many ) are caused by mental issues including identity crises. Being coerced into changing your sex is a massive decision, if one is even possible without mental trauma. I would suggest that well over 50% regret the decision.
The Dictator seems to infer that general public are going around on a daily basis, in great numbers, gay bashing & slagging about the LGBTQ+ people.
It’s just typical of him.
Correct, he is very much the boss though. Let’s not pretend the Russian government is pro-Christian when it is quite opposed. The Orthodox thing is just pushed by them for nationalistic reasons, they remain commies at heart.
Take note. From the New Cat. It’s behind a paywall at the HeraldSun
Stonnington council is reviewing its rental agreement with controversial church City On A Hill which uses the council-owned Phoenix Park Community Centre in Malvern East.
The innereast council is concerned the church’s views on LGBTIQA+ rights may not align with Stonnington’s Action Plan and commitment to “ inclusion, equality, and pride in the diversity”.
Andrew Bolt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW6pZgMgzEQ
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Greg Sheridan making sense
Thorburn being sacked due to his beliefs is a ‘grave moment in Australian culture’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2WWB4zmfHQ
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The Sicktorian Diktater spoke and the purges have begun.
Vikpol will be busy!
It will probably come to that, NFA.
It already has, really.
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