Send renewables immediately: Ukraine says 30% of its power plants destroyed in last eight days.
A western official, speaking on condition of anonymity in a briefing on Tuesday, said they (sic) believed Russia was “pursuing a deliberate strategy of attempting to destroy Ukraine’s electricity network”.
The Mission Accomplished triumphalism following the Crimea bridge attack didn’t last very long.
Ukraine – The Carbon Free Capital.
Zelensky needs South Australians for true DIY blowing up power stations.
As said before this is another old-fashioned war over energy. Putin wants the deposits in Eastern Ukraine, simple as that. Some nice agricultural land and shipping ports are a bonus.
France and Germany not far behind them.
This situation is not good … Ukraine will demand long range missiles to hit back right into Russia … and there’s every chance Antony Blinken will approve it … followed by some rubber stamping by the Commander in Continent. All they know how to do is escalate.
You would be simple to think that a bit of coal seam gas is significant to anyone. Ownership of Sevastopol is the entire victory conditions for both Russia and NATO … you know it’s significant because the moron media astutely never talk about it.
All they know how to do is escalate!! Our RET mate is as bad as CL.
Putin hasn’t escalated anything. Trying to get rid of all electricity in Ukraine before their winter is not terrorism?
Ukraine would be lucky to have power supplies like SA. It has the most secure power supplies on the AEMo front.
Just 12 days ago, the BBC (amongst others) reported on the ecstasy in Ukraine – and the mockery of Putin – over the failed bombing of the Crimea bridge.
Played stupid games, won stupid prizes.
‘It has the most secure power supplies on the AEMo front.’
Excellent! In the spirit of “equity”, we must shut down the interconnectors to protect the “less secure” parts of the East Coast Grid.
Hey, at least they can virtue-preen their solidarity with Ukraine. That should be very comforting to all those affected, on both sides of the world.
CL: it’s a measure of Putin’s impotence that he resorts to civilian bombings. He has failed his troops with a foolish invasion. He has been forced by citizens to cancel conscription. Now he has nowhere to go. So he’s trying to bomb Ukraine into the Stone Age – to quote a former us leader.
What I don’t understand is why you are in his cheer squad? Is this a trump thing?
Non Mnetis
Ukraine would be lucky to have power supplies like SA. It has the most secure power supplies on the AEMo front.
True. There is the interconnector from coal fired generators in Victoria and hydro in Tasmania, the open cycle gas generators, and many, many diesel generators.
Sometimes solar and wind contribute a bit, but often they make virtually no contribution
Western discourse is all over the place. Putin is ‘impotent’ but yet also waging a brutal war. It’s always: heads, we win; tails, you lose. This narrative is about to explode come Nov.
I find it kind of entertaining in a perverse way, that there is no scope for folks to examine the abject failure of western diplomacy that led to Putin invading Ukraine. The Crimea situation under Obama was a big warning, one that should have provoked significant introspection, but the only response has been to sledge Putin and then use him as a prop for domestic politics in the US.
The great irony here is that were the Russian Trump collusion hoax remotely true, Putin wouldn’t have needed to wait until the incontinent Biden admin arrived to seize back the Ukrainian territory they think belongs to them to neutralise a perceived Nato encroachment. Trump simply would have let them do it.
Instead, we got ham fisted diplomacy with a megaphone calling Russia a threat to civilisation. Putin, like the naughty kid in the class realised that he was never going to be goody two shoes in the eyes of the western hawks, so he just took it.
Now we have lefties squawking that the guy they pin as the bad actor, the dictator, the non rational one, should have done the right thing. Perhaps your team should have run their diplomatic efforts a bit more judiciously. It’s not too late to own up and negotiate a peace, it might not be ideal but nuclear war is worse.
I won’t believe the Russians have destroyed any Ukrainian thermal power plants until NASA and BOM confirm the increase in sea levels has slowed.
I didn’t think that when South Australia blew up their coal-fired power station. Not at the time anyway. On hindsight though it seems a fair description. Ecoterrorism.
LOL
Maybe Musk has let dem Russia bastids use his SkyLink system to control de mindless drones attacking Kyeve after the Ukrayne embassadore attacked Musk.
Buccaneer, there is no failure when it comes to the MIC and the various crime families making a motser out of this conflict. No doubt they are quite happy with their successes so far. One man’s abject failure of diplomacy is another man’s cash cow.
Russia should be more civilized like NATO…
Literal terrorism for me, no warfare for thee!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/balkans/stories/belgrade052599.htm
Quite the point, with billions of dollars sloshing around now in a country so corrupt the dems needed to attempt impeachment of a sitting president for simply asking if an investigation was going ahead.
Who needs insider trading when you have Ukraine, the Pelosis, rank amateurs..
Don’t hold your breath for this story to make the front page either.
If that’s the case then the last eight years were an old fashioned ethnic cleansing by the Germanophile west ukrainians against the Russians that live there and own all that land and all those resources.
Guess they just need to exit and leave it empty for the west ukrainian Übermensch brigades to have.
Astonishing.
Equally so…
Big Washington Post expose:
Retired US generals, admirals take top jobs with Saudi crown prince, other foreign governments.
500+ of them.
Endless War – it’s a racket being run by a network of greedy traitors.
Bucc:
To Obama’s credit, he went on record saying Ukraine was none of America’s business, strategically, and never would be.
I’m also beginning to tire of the Growing Fret From China bullshit. I hate those communist ants as much as anyone but they’re no more a threat now than they were when everyone in the West was playing footsie with them in the 1990s. The West needs to calm TF down for a decade or so; the absolute hubris of Western leaders – to have done what they’ve done these last few years and then manically search for a world war to shore up their hold on power. They’re deranged monsters.
Eisenhower would be spinning in his grave.
Obama was elected as the Trojan horse candidate, even now, he’s still using that cover to pretend he doesn’t orchestrate many of the more radical elements of the dem agenda.
They have become neocon hawks.
At least we now have an authoritative statement about ‘blowing up’ power stations!
During the Cold War, the motivation seemed to be mostly security. Now it seems to be a mixture of eco alarmism, ideological purity/ expand the state, feeding the military industrial complex and expanding the leverage of corrupt foreign government actors to fund political and personal graft. Is any of these truly a good reason the flirt with nuclear war?
In the West we call it climate activism. or as Greta Thornbug says, saving their planet.
Buccaneer hold on, it could be good for the planet, and fighting climate change.
10 Reasons Why A Nuclear War Could Be Good For Everyone
https://listverse.com/2018/08/22/10-reasons-why-a-nuclear-war-could-be-good-for-everyone/
Just another death cult
Nah, nothing insane going on here.
If there is a sudden up tick in private plane flights to NZ we know that the elites have been forewarned and are heading to their bolt holes there.
Over to you Vlad. You know where NZ is.
PS. All the normal Kiwis should take note and hop on a plane to Oz.
you cannot threaten a nuclear power. That is an absurd idea.
Robert Horvath at the Lowy Institute has provably the best idea about the banality of Putin’s evil.
It is only an endless war if Putin makes it so. He invaded Ukraine. He is the cause of the war. Russia cannot afford a long war but they have an incompetent army riddled with corruption.
Purin lovers here obviously want Ukraine to surrender.
The usual talking points again.
I think it’s imperative that our leaders are better, they should know that backing a nuclear power into a wall is not a great idea and use nuanced policy and negotiation to avoid it. Trump seemed to do that very well with North Korea even though the deliberately obtuse left will never give him credit for it.
The use of a nuclear power as a prop for domestic politics and or to play off a break for financial gain, that is what our media should be covering in punishing tones. Sticking your head in the sand and saying it’s all Putin’s fault will do no one any good once the nukes start going off. Pretending everyone who has reservations about their representative playing games with a nuclear power is just a shill for Putin also doesn’t wash.
I’ll make it clear for the obtuse one, I don’t support Putin, I don’t think Russia has a claim to Ukraine. They do, however have nuclear weapons for their security, just like most of the west, they are not there for show. Someone needs to be the adult in the room.
Buccaneer
Someone needs to be the adult in the room.
Don’t count on it being Joe Biden or Zelelsky (or Non Mentis).
no-one but Putin has backed himself into a wall.
how in the hell does Ukraine threaten Russia. Putin lovers simply makes things up.
Non Mentis
If you were capable of thinking, you would realise that Putin is not the only one backed against a wall. Zelensky, Biden, multiple EU “leaders”, and a few politicians far from the scene who should have kept out of something that didn’t concern them are in the same position.
But please carry on, babbling “Putin, Putin, Putin …” It probably gives you an (unjustified) feeling of superiority.
The Trampis, fond of providing fact free rants, once again accuses other people of making things up. So here it is, I know this is too complicated for your limited intellect to understand, but international diplomacy really requires accounting for what the people on the other side of the argument might perceive as implied agreements as well as actual written ones. Particularly when said parties have the capability to nuke your ass to hell.
I’ve been here for a while now C.L.