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Spitefulness, that’s all it is.
Birds of a feather
The language shifts from that of West Jerusalem being the Capital of Israel to that of Jerusalem, including East Jerusalem, being the Capital. So any unresolved issues which continue to slide in one direction or another.
Many unresolved issues.
so the fanboy of the leader of the worst terrorist state in the world does not like any organisation that has terrorists in saying a State that was foundered on terrorism should have a capital in Jerusalem.
how many countries followed the cult leader in saying Jerusalem is the capital of Israel?
“Not Trampis says:
19 October, 2022 at 9:44 am
so the fanboy of the leader of the worst terrorist state in the world does not like any organisation that has terrorists in saying a State that was foundered on terrorism should have a capital in Jerusalem.
how many countries followed the cult leader in saying Jerusalem is the capital of Israel?”
Are you saying that the state of Israel is a terrorist state?
Cassie, who really cares what he says? He will never see the world as a normal person would. Stop responding to these Lefties and they might disappear.
Trampis, that might have made sense in your head, it clearly doesn’t make sense to anyone with a coherent grasp of english.
I find Cassie’s responses quite reasonable and apt.
‘Lefties’ never just go away.
“Stop responding to these Lefties and they might disappear.”
Firstly, no, they don’t disappear.
Secondly, we conservatives and others on the right, for far too long, have refused to fight the left and look where that’s got us. Until we learn to fight them, every single time, we will continue to lose the culture wars. Von Trampis will be rebutted every time.
Any government must be doing something terribly wrong when terrorist scum are praising them.
The nerve of Israel, deciding where its capital should be, like every other nation on earth, without exception!
Non Mentis
so the fanboy of the leader of the worst terrorist state in the world does not like any organisation that has terrorists in saying a State that was foundered on terrorism should have a capital in Jerusalem.
“Worst terrorist state in the world”?
When did Iran come into this discussion?
foundered (sic) on terrorism
Illiterate idiot, too lazy or sloppy to proof read your own rubbish.
PS, Palestine seems to have a closer current link to terrorism.
No CL is a fanboy of Putin. and you aint a conservative. no-one is here. conservative support a rules based system and they do not attempt to destroy institutions which are needed for democracy to succeed.
no Iran is nowhere near Russia as a terrorist stated.
Cap ‘N Snooze… you have outclassed yourself.
So, Australia now officially supports Nazis in Ukraine and anti-Semitic terrorists in Israel.
In what bizarro world could we possibly be considered the good guys?
Non Mentis
No CL is a fanboy of Putin. and you aint a conservative. no-one is here. conservative support a rules based system and they do not attempt to destroy institutions which are needed for democracy to succeed.
No, idiot. Conservatives work to preserve what is of value, and change or abolish institutions which have no value. A rules-based system is only of value if it allows democratic government. Much of modern “international law” is destructive of democracy, taking decisions away from those most affected, and putting them under the control of institutions with no responsibility or accountability to those to whom they dictate orders.
Loath as I am to occasionally agree with Not Trampis, Israel is a state founded as a result of “terrorism”, just like its model, the Irish Free State. Not a moral judgement, just an objective one. People can rightly hold differing views of the righteousness of what actions were taken on both sides. Where Israel declares its capital is is just a bagatelle. Israel is larger than what the UN decreed in 1948 – by right of conquest. There was no land in the 1948 Palestine Mandate that was not legally held. The owners were Jews and Arabs. The creation of Israel was the result of illegal immigration, terrorist attacks, European guilt and intense lobbying at the UN. I am not qualified to offer a solution other than to emulate what Germany has done. That is for Israel to pay compensation to Arab land holders for the loss of property and lives since 1948. Like most things, it comes down to money. You took their land, they have not gone away, you must eventually pay them a fair price. There will be strategic issues where some areas of land would cost more, such as the Golan Heights. I am sure Israel and the world’s Jewish community would be able to fund a solution, in cooperation with Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt. Until then all these tit for tat atrocities just fuel further conflict. All of the immense Israeli defence spending since 1948 would have funded this, instead of a forever war and endless security state where each side fear stabbings, shootings and missile attacks.
“Romanitas says:
19 October, 2022 at 11:51 pm”
At least you’ve been honest. Jew hatred truly is the longest hatred…but also the most irrational one and your whole comment just proves this.
Carry on.
Alas Cassie shows again she equates criticism of Israel with hatred of Israel.
Our primary school dropout does not understand. a rules based system is vital otherwise you merely have rule of the strongest On this both Trump and Xi are on a unity ticket.
Neither want competitive markets.
If you destroy major institutions as shown by Germany in the 1930s you lose democracy
Wading into the Arab Israel conflict is not for the casual observer. My recommendation is go back and do a bit more reading, I don’t think you’ve accurately represented events and there are many assertions on both sides that don’t line up either with recorded events or reality that are hard to unwind.
I’d also suggest that the bar the left is using to equate Israel to being founded on terrorism could be used for many other countries too. It might also be applied to the suffragette movement, the abortion movement in the US and many others. This is dangerous territory.
One constant, that we are reminded of on a daily basis, is that the Trampis has no clue about pretty much anything and is only here in a misguided attempt to upset posters. What he actually does, very effectively, is cast himself as the pinnacle of misinformation.
Non Mentis
a rules based system is vital otherwise you merely have rule of the strongest
Again the pre-school failure shows his lack of reading comprehension ability. A rules-based system is needed, but not just any rules-based system. It must support, not crush, democracy. Go back, and read again, carefully, and think. It will be difficult for you, but ultimately rewarding, if you succeed.
The present system needs reform.
bucco the graph man makes a statement.
It is a fact Israel became a state because in part because of murderous terrorist groups. gangs. , The Stern gang. Irgun etc.
Hey primary school drop out we have a rules based system and it has served the west well. It was only a obese grifter that wanted to change that because he never liked competitive markets. Grifters never do
Non Mentis
It is a fact Israel became a state because in part because of murderous terrorist groups. gangs. , The Stern gang. Irgun etc.
It is a fact that Israel became a state because the UN voted for it to become a state. You know, part of that “rules-based” system that you favour.
we have a rules based system and it has served the west well. It was only a (sic) obese grifter that wanted to change that
If you believe that Trump is the only person in the western world dissatisfied with the current rules-based system, then you need to remove your head from your rectum, get out a bit more, and look to a wider range of reading material.
But first, go back to pre-school, and try to grasp the foundations necessary before you will be able to both read and comprehend.
It’s a fact, it’s a fact. Bullshit. It’s an assertion from lefties who hate Jews. An assertion they don’t make about the independence of Kenya, for example.
“Buccaneer says:
20 October, 2022 at 11:49 am
It’s a fact, it’s a fact. Bullshit. It’s an assertion from lefties who hate Jews. An assertion they don’t make about the independence of Kenya, for example.”
Correct….or Pakistan.
But it’s different when they do it.
A primary school drop out does not know what the UN agreed to and what occurred after. No-one is surprised by this.
I never said Trump was the only culprit. He was the leader of the largest democracy (at present) in the world.
People corp this behaviour. He told the lie of a stolen election ( despite telling colleagues he actually lost)and we have seen it occur elsewhere
bucco you know history y like you understand graphs.
Jewish terrorist groups murdered palestinians. When leaflets were dropped in villages telling of this and it would occur in their village they fled in their 1000,s. This happened in 1948. There are survivors you know
When the Palestinians came back to their homes they were locked out. A lot were christians by the way.
It is why sermons on amos or micah are so popular.
We are not talking about Kenya here we are talking about Israel and a country that should be called Palestine.
People rightly call out the terrorist actions of Palestinians but in a way they are pale imitators of the Jewish terrorists on 1948 and at leat on that we should be tankful they are so poor.
“bucco you know history y like you understand graphs.
Jewish terrorist groups murdered palestinians. When leaflets were dropped in villages telling of this and it would occur in their village they fled in their 1000,s. This happened in 1948. There are survivors you know
When the Palestinians came back to their homes they were locked out. A lot were christians by the way.
It is why sermons on amos or micah are so popular.
We are not talking about Kenya here we are talking about Israel and a country that should be called Palestine.
People rightly call out the terrorist actions of Palestinians but in a way they are pale imitators of the Jewish terrorists on 1948 and at leat on that we should be tankful they are so poor.”
Your whole unhinged, illiterate comment is a disgrace. But I must say thank you. I always knew you were a Jew hater but it’s nice when people confirm in writing their Jew hatred.
No surprises, another fact free incoherent rant from the Trampis. You get so much wrong it’s no surprise you never post any actual evidence, it would totally destroy your racist demented world view. You represent the left to a T.
Frankly I particularly dislike discussing the arab israel conflict, because it is a terrible example of human behaviour, but trying to pretend that actions in 1948 were somehow worse than the prior and subsequent actions of the various arab groups who have vacillated about the area in question and engaged in unambiguous terrorism over and extended period is just rubbish.
Many countries had insurgency groups that pushed colonial powers at the time for independence, by your measure, all of those are now invalidated.
Non Mentis
A primary school drop out does not know what the UN agreed to and what occurred after
A pre-school failure does not know what occurred after, ignores actions taken by the Arabs. Sad, low energy.
People corp (sic) this behaviour. He told the lie of a stolen election ( despite telling colleagues he actually lost)and we have seen it occur elsewhere
You have not yet provided a link to this alleged statement about Trump.
Jewish terrorist groups murdered palestinians.
Palestinian terrorist groups murdered both Jews and Palestinians.
We are not talking about Kenya here we are talking about Israel and a country that should be called Palestine.
You were babbling about nations “foundered”(sic) on terrorism. Kenya was another. Also, as you have been told many times, but seem incapable of comprehending, there will never be a “two state solution” until the Palestinians accept the right of Israel (a nation accepted as legitimate under the UN “rules-based” system) to exist.
terrorist actions of Palestinians but in a way they are pale imitators of the Jewish terrorists on 1948 and at leat (sivc) on that we should be tankful (sic) they are so poor.
Yerrrrs. In 1948 the Israelis were using large numbers of rockets to attack Palestinian areas. Idiot.
notice how how primary school drop out does not refute but argues somewhat differently.
Yes Israel boundaries were very different to those accepted in the UN.
Pay attention to the Jan 6 committee ! Are you the only person who does not know Eastman told Trump not to sign the declaration to a Georgian court as the statistics were false. That is another titbit.
We see another example of bad Palestinian terrorists but good Jewish terrorists. If you had a moral compass then you would say they were both evil.
No they merely murdered 1000’s of Arabs. We are lucky they are pale imitations of jewish terrorists.
It merely shows up the hypocrisy of Israel criticising them when they either they have never apologised for it nor did Begin or Shamir when asked about it when they became PM. No different to Arafat no less.
Both semitic populations behaving similarly.
You said no such thing, and I made no value judgement about the actions of the Israelis other than to say it’s a fiction to pretend that they were worse than the history of terrorism from the other side (not only the Palestinians).
What you did say is that the Jews are worse.
You’ve totally ignored the arab revolt, you’ve totally ignored that other insurgencies were going on around the whole colonized world and that colonial powers were withdrawing with similar results everywhere. You’ve totally ignored that the zionists provided warnings of actions. The history is long, horrible and complicated with claims and counter claims and with lots of bad actions on both sides.
What is really clear, is that the arabs are not interested in peace, that accusation could be made against Israel too, but it’s a bit less clear.
What is also really clear, is that the only leader that has made any actual headway in this space is Trump.
Your crappy incoherent rhetoric is an example of why issues like this get out of hand.
Non Mentis
notice how how primary school drop out does not refute but argues somewhat differently.
You should be flattered. I learned the technique from you.
Pay attention to the Jan 6 committee
Leftards of both the communist and fascist persuasions just lurrrve a good show trial.
We see another example of bad Palestinian terrorists but good Jewish terrorists. If you had a moral compass then you would say they were both evil.
If you had a moral compass, you would not focus on only one side. If you had wider knowledge of the region, you would not be ignorant of the slogan “From the river to the sea”, and its implications for the population of Israel.
No they merely murdered 1000’s of Arabs.
Amazing! in 74 years, Palestinian terrorists have never murdered an Israeli. Do you ever re-read what you type, before you Post Comment? Oh, sorry, you never learned to read.