Let’s check in on the ‘values’ Britain is fighting for in Ukraine

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39 Responses to Let’s check in on the ‘values’ Britain is fighting for in Ukraine

  1. dover_beach says:

    I mentioned this a couple of day back. What I didn’t mention, given this and say the trajectory of euthanasia in Canada recently, among other things, is how much Anglophone countries disgust me at the moment, or an appeal to ‘Western values’.

  2. C.L. says:

    Meanwhile…

    Russian parliament moves to widen prohibition against ‘LGBT propaganda’ to include adults.

    The bill’s backers say they are defending the traditional values of the “Russian world” against a liberal West they say is determined to destroy them — an argument also increasingly being used by officials as one of the justifications for Russia’s military campaign in Ukraine.

    LGBT today is an element of hybrid warfare, and in this hybrid warfare we must protect our values, our society and our children,” Alexander Khinstein, one of the bill’s architects, said last month.

  3. Lee says:

    The Cult of Death.

  4. Yank says:

    CL: once again, spinning pro Putin. Seems your allegiance is to the idea Putin us a religious zealot. Which he plainly is not. This is a queer way to justify invasion.

  5. Boambee John says:

    Yank

    You must have rearranged all the letters in CL’s words to reach that conclusion.

    Or perhaps screeching “Putinist” is your default debating position?

  6. Dunny Brush says:

    Families with down kids are already marginalised. Utterly disgusting. Perhaps Downs should start identifying as sacred trans to avoid the murderous left?

  7. NFA says:

    Dunny Brush says:
    29 November, 2022 at 7:14 pm

    Families with down kids are already marginalised. Utterly disgusting. Perhaps Downs should start identifying as sacred trans to avoid the murderous left?

    The murderous left are coming after all of us.

  8. NFA says:

    Yank says:
    29 November, 2022 at 6:20 pm

    CL: once again, spinning pro Putin. Seems your allegiance is to the idea Putin us a religious zealot. Which he plainly is not. This is a queer way to justify invasion.

    A Real Republican(tm) tells C.L.

    ROFLMAO

  9. Tel says:

    LGBT today is an element of hybrid warfare …

    That’s true in both directions … because Washington wants to push this in order to paint Putin as a “bad man” and some kind of phobi-phobi-whapper (whatever new Leftist talking point they come up with today). At the same time, the Kremlin isn’t about to miss out on the opportunity to give em hybrid warfare right back by describing to the Russian people all manner of unspeakable tranny gender bending that the USA will do to their children if the ordinary Russians don’t step up and fight.

    Both have a kernel of truth wrapped in a lot of dishonest exaggeration … but as a famous man once said, “… the people can always be brought to the will of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are under attack and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

    Interesting question is where the various bystander countries fall on this issue: Turkey, China, India, Pakistan, Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Philippines … even perhaps Japan and S Korea … there’s quite a lot of traditional family values floating around. Kremlin propaganda might find more resonance than Washington propaganda. USA and UK can’t stand up against the whole world. Heck, the EU can’t even get their act together to do basic fracking and coal mining. I can’t see through other people’s eyes but I have a suspicion the Western way of life doesn’t look so impressive from a distance these days.

  10. Yank says:

    Tel: I see you’ve picked it. Putin family values are attractive!

  11. NFA says:

    Yank says:
    30 November, 2022 at 4:40 am

    Tel: I see you’ve picked it. Putin family values are attractive!

    The Real Republican(tm) speaks.

  12. Tel says:

    Yank, dunno which “Republican” type people your persona’s backstory includes, but as someone who has mostly hung around in working class multicultural neighbourhoods in Australia, typically Middle Eastern type people (Muslim & Christian) are not enthusiastic about their kids getting school instruction regarding alternative sexual lifestyle type stuff.

    Very likely the people in Australia are broadminded by international standards … still families are willing to move their kids out of government schools in Australia and into private religious oriented schools … when you imagine the reaction of less broadminded people back home in Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, etc to Admiral Rachel Levine, how do you think they feel about the quality of leadership in Washington?

    Not saying those people are right to be judgemental … but we all make judgements one way or another.

    Personally, I think Levine should be punished for the dreadful act of sending infected people into nursing homes and is personally responsible for a large fraction of the early Covid death rate in New Jersey … I don’t care who wears a dress. Just pointing out that a major fraction of the world population isn’t into that tranny stuff. Perhaps the Turks will see the errors of their ways and change attitude … do your “Republican” friends also expect this to happen?

  13. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Putin family values are attractive!”

    Ah yes, biological reality is “Putin family values”. Saying that there’s no such thing as a “female penis” is “Putin family values”.

    LOL.

    When was the last time you voted Republican “Yank”?

    That’s right….never.

  14. Chris M says:

    Putin family values are attractive!

    Spawn various children by various women, sounds like he’s quite western. Even Muskian.

  15. Not Trampis says:

    No in the UK you can protest against this decision and get the government to change the law. That is part of the values we are helping.

    Of course Putin is a Christian and upholding said values.
    Afterall he has four mistresses, he has stolen billions from his own countrymen, he has pioised anyone he considers a threat to him and when they survive that he puts them in gaol, he regularly commits war crimes.
    These are the values CL and other deplorables uphold

  16. Boambee John says:

    Non Mentis

    “pioised”? Did you learn that word before you failed pre-school? Or did you fail because you thought it was a word?

  17. NFA says:

    Not Trampis says:
    30 November, 2022 at 7:58 am

    No in the UK you can protest against this decision and get the government to change the law. That is part of the values we are helping.

    hey you farqing communist, fascist socialist alliance shill.

    Tell me of one law I can protest in the UK???

  18. NFA says:

    lol… preying mantis

    Afterall he has four mistresses

    your envious then?????????

  19. Rightwingnutjob says:

    Cassie: you clearly don’t know many GOP voters. No sane person associates Putin with family values.

  20. Boambee John says:

    RWNJ

    How many “sane person[s]” associate Creepy Joe Biden with family values? Tell us what the Country Club Republicans think of him.

  21. NFA says:

    Don’t you just ‘lerv’ you some nut job.

  22. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Cassie: you clearly don’t know many GOP voters. “

    And nor do you RWNJ.

    Your shtick here is misleading. You should rename yourself Leftwingnutjob, because that’s a more accurate description of you.

  23. Cassie of Sydney says:

    Oh and “Yank” is not a Yank.

  24. Yank says:

    Cassie: what you don’t like is having your prejudices reflected back to you. You like to wallow but you can’t front up. Putin is anti-family. You only need like at his domestic tactics, let alone his bombing of families in their homes.

  25. Rightwingnutjob says:

    BJ: Pence just today has called out Trump. So there’s hardly any of his own chosen folk supporting him. Most of his staff are queueing at the DoJ. Trump is now parading his friendship with Fuentes and Kanye. Fuentes calls himself a Nazi. I suspect you are more in the Oath Keepers camp, whose leader is headed for prison for treason.
    Cassie: GOP voters are not interested in extremism.

  26. Not Trampis says:

    you can protest against any law in the Uk or here.

    That protest has to be within the law.

  27. Boambee John says:

    RWNJ

    Move away from the bong, it is giving you delusions of being a mind reader.

  28. NFA says:

    Not Trampis says:
    30 November, 2022 at 12:46 pm

    you can protest against any law in the Uk or here.

    That protest has to be within the law.

    lol

  29. Tel says:

    Oh and “Yank” is not a Yank.

    Shorthand for “Crank Yank” … remember he’s very clever, almost the next Jonathan Gruber.

  30. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Rightwingnutjob says:
    30 November, 2022 at 12:19 pm
    BJ: Pence just today has called out Trump. So there’s hardly any of his own chosen folk supporting him. Most of his staff are queueing at the DoJ. Trump is now parading his friendship with Fuentes and Kanye. Fuentes calls himself a Nazi. I suspect you are more in the Oath Keepers camp, whose leader is headed for prison for treason.
    Cassie: GOP voters are not interested in extremism.”

    Firstly, you don’t know what GOP voters are interested in.

    Secondly, Fuentes is an ugly, nasty and distasteful individual, but so is Ilhan Omer, Rashida Tlaib and and others in the squad who sit in congress and are feted by the left….but because they’re of the left, their Jew hatred is given a free pass.

    Thirdly, where do you find the most “Nazis” and admirers of Nazism, Hitler and the genocide against the Jews? In the Arab and Muslim world. Mein Kampf is one of the biggest selling books in the Middle East and and other Muslim majority countries. Irrational Jew hatred and Holocaust denial is the norm in most of these countries….and Iran itself hosts Holocaust denial conferences and threatens the sole Jewish country on the planet with annihilation.

    I know you’re dumb, which is forgivable, but you’re something else, something that is unforgivable, a disgraceful hypocrite.

  31. dover_beach says:

    The same ‘conservatives’ that run the “Putin is not the ‘family values’ guy please support Ukraine” argument, i.e. French and Romney, are the same ‘conservatives’ now supporting the ‘Respect’ for Marriage Act which is going to allow the Feds to go after religious organizations if they defend their view of marriage. It’s a gaslighting operation.

  32. Yank says:

    Cassie: there is a large difference between the US and a sectarian ideological jurisdiction. The nut job has rightly suggested that presidents of the US should not promote vile beliefs. You, for some reason, quibble. You don’t even notice that your beloved Trump is making big bucks from his friends in Saudi and Oman.

  33. Boambee John says:

    Yank

    You don’t even notice that your beloved Trump is making big bucks from his friends in Saudi and Oman.

    Given what is already known about the “business” activities of Hunter Bunter, can you give us an estimate of what “10% for the Big Guy” has been worth to Creepy Joe. And an estimate of what proportion comes from the CCP and its various businesses.

    Just for a comparison.

  34. NFA says:

    You don’t even notice that your beloved Trump is making big bucks from his friends in Saudi and Oman.

    @ real Republican

    How much ‘big bucks’ is Trump making ‘from his friends in Saudi and Oman’?

    I missed the ‘notice’!

  35. Yank says:

    NFA: then you don’t pay attention.

  36. NFA says:

    Yank says:
    2 December, 2022 at 10:24 pm

    NFA: then you don’t pay attention.

    so, your just bullshitting.

  37. Boambee John says:

    NFA

    And Yank doesn’t “pay, attention” to the Hunter/Creepy Joe activities.

  38. Tel says:

    NFA, I am guessing that the Very Fine Republican is referring to foreign dignatories staying in Trump hotels, and playing a few rounds of overpriced golf.

    Yes, in a very indirect way that’s foreign money going to Trump, but what’s the Alternative? Should all foreign heads of state be sent to Democrat run LA where they can sleep in a tent on the sidewalk and drop a poo on the road? I mean that’s one way to make absolutely sure no money changes hands.

    Trump runs hotels and golf courses, they are for-profit enterprises and supposedly pretty darn plush. The foreigners can stay wherever they decide they can afford it, and Saudis are chashed up good right now with us suckers paying Bidenflated prices.

    It’s one of the non-issues that CNN makes and endless big deal over.

    If Trump offered free B&B to anyone official he would just as much be accused of something. These media people will always find things to whine about. They need a news story to maintain the outrage.

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