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Intelslava on Telegram frequently has footage of these apprehensions of the unwilling. They could be Russians for all I know but they state that they are Ukrainians.
Many such cases.
The beauty of this war (for Biden) is that there are no body bags being brought home and angry mothers, wives and loved ones to contend with. The MIC is booming and it’s all paid for by printing money. No wonder they like it.
On the other hand the Ukrainians doing the dying from a shrinking pool of uncertain commitment are voting with their feet. Green conscripts shovelled into the meat grinder have the longevity of WW1 subalterns. If they don’t get reinforcements from another source they will soon enough run out of cannon fodder.
The problem is that the Ukrainians have long experience with what happens when they’re conquered by Russians. So I suspect they think their guys dying are worth it, since if Russia does take the country the carnage inflicted by a very irate Vladimir Putin just might be worse. At least that is what their history suggests.
The treatment of ethnic Ukrainians in the occupied zones hasn’t been especially good, and many thousands are reported to’ve been deported eastwards. Whether or not that is true I don’t know, but the Ukrainian in the street will believe it and fear it.
If Putin does win the refugee wave that will sweep westwards will be like nothing seen since WW2. It’ll be worse than after the fall of Saigon, since the Sth Vietnamese were limited by the sea barrier and the local politics.
It’s not my war and I have no side: I’m making an observation from what has happened over the last century and a half.
(I haven’t seen a poll for a while but in the last one I saw the Ukrainians were just as supportive of continued fighting as the Russian people are – numbers in the 80s both ways. It’s sad.)
Bruce. Anyone who believes what polls say has cognitive issues.
PA – So which is the unbelievable one, that 80% of Ukrainians support fighting Russians, or that 80% of Russians support fighting Ukrainians?
Can’t have it both ways.
Sometimes two adjacent peoples just hate each other. They need a divorce same as the US does.
The majority of Ukrainians used to get on very well with the Russians, hence why so many pro-Russian leaders got into power. The US didn’t like that, hence Maidan.
“to the last person”
Postively Churchillian cadence…
Bruce you can’t be serious about polling. Ukraine is at war. there is no way anyone could get a random sample. In russia do you really think anyone is going to answer truthfully to any polling organisation?
If anyone think it is only Russia using troops as a meatgrinder then they are ignorant fools.
Petros os another one who has never heard of the heavenly 100 and their murder which is remembered each year every year.
Ukrainians have regularly voted to be closer to Europe and prosperity than Russia and
kleptocracy.
Homer – I’ve long said casualty rates appear to be about 1:1, and that it’s basically WW1 style trench warfare with artillery back as king of the battlefield again. The high tech AA and AT systems, especially man portable ones, on both sides have substantially negated armour and air support. Ukraine has the benefit of dug-in defenses but Russia has a big artillery superiority: these two facets substantially offset each other.
Despite the horrendous casualties in WW1 neither side gave in until they basically bled out. This one seems a lot like that, with both fear and nationalism driving it in similar ways.
Does the Heavenly Hundred include those assassinated by CIA operatives?
NFA
Shhhhhh, you’ll distract Non Mentis.
The problem this time is that Biden hasn’t realised he’s pinned his hopes to the Ukrainians being able to field the manpower to outcompete Russia and that NATO needs to outcompete Russia and China not for tech but for outright production over an extended period.
Any student of history would have known that early reversals for Russia are frequent and historically have been no indicator of the eventual outcome, which is determined by the grim but vast size of their resources and propensity to sacrifice them.
Non Mentis
Instead of babbling on about a war the outcome of which we cannot possibly affect, why don’t you demonstrate your economic genius.
Tell us how much it will cost and how long it will take to build sufficient solar and wind generators and the necessary transmission lines and firming facilities to provide the reliable continuous electricity supply essential to support a modern economy.
Or are you just talking through your hat when you tout ruinables as reliable and effective?