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Gas stoves have been used for several generations and all of a sudden we’re supposed to believe that they pose a threat?
I am not buying it for a minute.
It’s all just part of a government/Green campaign to soften up the public before they get rid of gas altogether.
Indeed, Lee.
Note where the scientists are from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeXKe904v80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNt1JYEh-Cg
(Watch about 4-8 minutes in.)
The left, as usual in America, went into meltdown because Tucker pointed out their agenda.
I would love to have gas cooking, unfortunately I don’t.
It is far superior to electricity for such a purpose.
Stanford University personnel should be barred from entering Australia as they are obvious lunatics and if we ever get out from under the mess that “intelligence” is delivering then all taxation funding by whatever means should cease being wasted on Universities, staff and students.
Gas stoves have been used for several generations and all of a sudden we’re supposed to believe that they pose a threat?
That research has been around since the 70s, I think it’s legit.
The issue is the speed with which it’s been adopted.
Another example of
Think of the kiddies
while we strip away your Rights.
Disclaimer:
Ask a Fireman about it, 90% of House Fires happen in houses with Gas Cookers.
Every good cook I know loves gas.
Which is why the Latest Thing is celebrity chefs being recruited ($) to say, ‘yeah, no – electricity is actually better.’
Not even in the Top Ten, Ed.
And if you have a gas supply you can provide heating.
If your on electricity, so sad, too bad, Grandma dies from the cold.
Same thing happened with Asbestos.
The research had been around for 90 years, it was legit, no one cared.
Suddenly, the Hawke Government discovered the 90 year old research and sprang into
action.
Anyway, that was the end of the Asbestos Industry, though it’s still going gangbusters
in Canada and Russia.
Say ta ta to the Domestic Gas Industry.
Now that really is gaslighting (no pun intended).
1. Cooking equipment
Pots and pans can overheat and cause a fire very easily if the person cooking gets distracted and leaves cooking unattended. Always stay in the room, or ask someone to watch your food, when cooking on hotplates.
Hotplates eh?
I think someone from Big Gas is having a lend, C.L.
They will always find some reason to try and take away anything you love.
Same happened with “secondhand” and, particularly, “thirdhand” smoke (SHS, THS). The same concerns with asthma and The Children™. It’s only years after the brainwashing of SHS “danger” that a few within Public Health noticed that SHS couldn’t be responsible/trigger for asthma in some, for example, because while indoor exposure to tobacco smoke had been the norm for the better part of a century, asthma had been a very rare condition. It’s only in the few later decades that exposure to indoor tobacco smoke has markedly declined that the incidence of asthma has risen. The same can be said for gas stoves. They’ve been around for the better part of a century, and for most of that time asthma was a rarity. [More recently it’s been found that [the rise in] C-sections is associated with the [rise in] breathing disorders in children, i.e., iatrogenic] But this has nothing to do with facts. It’s inflammatory propaganda for the purposes of denormalizing a specific phenomenon.
You have some fringe “experts”, in this case from overseas, conducting nebulous “research” devoid of connection to harm. They just keep producing unchallenged journal papers and media articles that keep alluding – over and over and over again – to “possible harm”… “maybe”, “possibly”, “potentially”. This is more than enough for the neurotic – there are plenty of these now – who will lap up this crap, already onboard with the “hazards” of SHS and THS. Even at this early propaganda time there’s surely a “dangers of gas stoves” farcebook group.
It’s certainly inflammatory propaganda. The article is not only fear-mongering with the “possible” harm of indoor gas cooking (sans evidence), but claiming with certitude that if indoor air is drawn outdoors, this will be detrimental for “the climate”. Therefore, the only “solution”, according to “the experts”, is to eradicate gas use, i.e., even better indoor air ventilation/filtration will not do.
Don’t be surprised if there’s concurrent “research” strongly indicating that bugs are best prepared with microwaves. 🙂
If everything is powered by elec tricity, “they” can turn it off at will.
For gas, especially cylinders, this is difficult – unless they indulge in the risky process of physically goin to everyones’ home & turning off the gas.
Just part of the total control they need – coupled with the CBDC (digital currency) and we will be eating bugs.
Apart from anything else, how is chinese wok cooking supposed to happen with an induction plate? It requires a gas stove only slightly less powerful than the business end of a fighter jet. It’ll be a second Boxer Rebellion.
The move against gas cooking is clearly waaaascissst in origin, harking back to the days of the “Yellow Peril”.
What do they have against people who cook with woks?
Anyway, the point is we are expected to eat from the corporation owned bistro on the bottom floor of the corporate owned apartment block we rent a dog box in.
They’re just copying what Biden was raving about from about 3 weeks ago. So lag time from US to here ~approx. 3 weeks.
This new fad of “evil gas” can all b drawn back to one of two studies (or both). One was a student study of 8 people living in Hong Kong, which (among other things) made the ridiculous assumption that open windows in Hong Kong during peak hour did not decrease the air quality in the units i. question. The other was an American study which made a big point kf saying that the test rooms were ventilated, but glossed over the fact that the entire experiment was sealed in plastic.
And then you have idiots like Googlery here who conflate gas studies with particulates studies. There is no link between all gas cooking use and particulates. There -may- be a link between burning food with gas (or anything else) and particulates.
Take the trip down the rabbit hole, CL. It’s worth it to experience the unmitigated bulltish of modern “science” reporting methodology in all its glory.
These dark age imbeciles are unrelenting. Just about everything that makes life worth living these idiots are demanding be removed, outlawed, banned, etc.
Three examples off the top of my head they’re coming for – my car, my aircon, my gas appliances (cooking, heating and hot water). I regard anyone trying to take these from me as an existential threat. There are no doubt many others who feel the same way.
People need to start seriously arcing up against this monstrous collectivist insanity.
You seem to be a Christian CL, so what about this???
Vigano is actually a brilliant writer and polemicist.
Even those who disagree with him would have to admit that.
I wish I shared the Archbishop’s confidence.
I agree totally with Vigano and have done from the start.
He is one of the few brave willing to speak up.
He is right on the ball, and his messages as to what was happening , and is happening has been roundly poo poo ed by many on other blogs.
He’s a conspiracy theorist as they would say.
But he’s been right all along.
Right on the money.
The German bishops denounced his “conspiracy theories” during lockdowns.
Say no more.
This pope we have now is a communist plant.
So much of the world’s misery that has already occered and is yet to come, can only happen once the good popes were removed.
Which they did way back when we showed video of Fauci and other globalists meeting at the Vatican before the globalist coup.
Always remember guys, the likes of the little gang of sneerers on other blogs like Dover’s who poo poo ed everything, and like Rosie, even argued for the globalist cause, and the jab.
occurred
Ed … first do a little bit of cooking so that you know something … before you comment, mkay?
Any hot surface in the kitchen, covered with oil or grease can burst into flames very easily, and doesn’t matter whether the energy comes from electricity or gas. In an oven, sugary baked items will also catch fire if overcooked.
Even a simple desk light can catch fire if it uses a halogen bulb and gets knocked over.
The humble domestic refrigerator is pumping lighter fluid (R600A = Isobutane) which can start fires if the fridge is in the kitchen (most are) and if there is a crack anywhere which might open up and leak. Yes it does happen.
By the way, most of the fumes in the kitchen come from the food itself, and not from the energy source. Burning a natural gas flame in a room, without anything contacting the flame, produces only CO2 and H2O and nothing else. It’s perfectly safe. To empty the kitchen of cooking fumes what you do is open the window and/or use a range hood … the proper ones have an exhaust that goes up and out the roof.
The electricity prices are set to hike another 20% minimum this year. It’s gonna be brutal and no one, I mean no one is giving up their gas hot water.
That can’t be right Tel. We have ‘experts’ telling us otherwise.
Tel … first talk to a fireman about the cause of 90% of house fires …
Let’s find a few more causes of House Fires:
Lightning strikes.
Yeah, that’s more likely than, I dunno, turning a naked flame on in your house 6 times a day x 365.
How about people autocombusting?
A bird catches on fire above a Solar Array, flies thru your window.
Meteors?
A bit of Skylab lands on your house?
Those filthy communists were talking parts per billion and crapping their daks
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK230446/
150ppm of NO2 = 3.26mM
116ppb = 0.000002521 M
Who gives a shit. Just ban it and move onto the next thing.
Someone should study the effect of gas on politicians. I have a chamber that would be suitable.
Vigano – a polemicist of the prophetic type. If only a message such as his was espoused by the Curia, what a presence the Church would be and what a different world.
Ed, stop making stuff up … repeating yourself does not make you right about anything … firemen are not statisticians and by the time they get to a burning house, it’s already past the point where they can see exactly which appliance started the fire. Besides that, there is no single cause of 90% of fires, and I am sure you have not talked to any firemen about this.
A quick search of actual statistics shows that about 40% of fires are caused by electrical faults, and that in itself is sufficient to demonstrate that you 90% single cause number is ridiculous.
Yes, that’s right … the levels of NOx they could measure (ignoring the junk measurement with all the doors and windows closed) were one thousand times lower than anything dangerous.
100 parts per billion is 1 part in 10 million.
To make an analogy … if we use round figures and take the whole population of Australia at about 30 million people there could be a total of 3 people in all of Australia running around carring a sign, “I’m the NOx” and that’s the same level of dilution we are talking about. What would be your chance of bumping into one of those three?
Humans have lived around fires in various forms since the stone age. Natural gas is probably the cleanest fire ever invented, and the level of NOx that a kitchen stove generates is so close to zero that it should be regarded as zero.
…firemen are not statisticians and by the time they get to a burning house, it’s already past the point where they can see exactly which appliance started the fire.
Depends on the fire, doesn’t it? Most houses aren’t burnt to the ground by the time the Fire Brigade arrives.
I’d say they’ve got a fair idea.
… and I am sure you have not talked to any firemen about this.
No need to get hysterical.
Ed, I can’t find anything online to back up your claim that 90% of house fires are caused by gas stoves. Most of the links say forgetting what’s on a stove-top is a top cause – if not, the top cause. But no evidence these are all gas stove-tops.
NSW Fire & Rescue site warns that 40% of house fires are caused by electrical appliances and faults. Of the approximately 4500 house fires in a year, half started in the kitchen “mostly due to unattended cooking.” Then there’s cigarettes and device charging.
Ergo: nothing near 90% is statistically possible.
C.L.:
I said:
Firemen will tell you that 90% of callouts [in other words, fires] are to houses with Gas.
Nothing about stove top fires.
The link you put up only mentioned Hot Plates.
I’ve never heard of a gas stove top being called Hot Plates.
According to that link, Gas is not in the top 10 causes of House Fires, which would make it way less than 10% and probably way less than 2%.
I find that a bit like being told to take that 5th Covid Booster or else, it’s laughable.
Now , I made that comment in good faith, because I was told, by a Professional Fireman from the Fire Brigade, on duty, not in a Pub, that 90% of their callouts are to houses connected to Gas.
That’s in Queensland.
Perhaps the situation is totally different in Sydney, but I has me doubts.
… because I was told, by a Professional Fireman from the Fire Brigade, on duty, not in a Pub, that 90% of their callouts are to houses connected to Gas.
Was Thomas the Tank Engine there, too?
Yeah, he was.
He told me a funny story about you, but I’d prefer not to repeat it.
Did this mysterious fireman also tell you what percentage of callouts were to houses with driveways?
And houses with roofs, doors or windows?
Try not to be such an obvious imbecile.
I’ve heard fire callouts find 100% of houses are connected to the water.
You’ve been hanging around talking to plumbers again … haven’t you?
Even if they’re not connected, they’re still paying water rates… 🤔