Swag of Biden officials background Politico on unwinnable war

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  1. Jannie says:

    The Ukrainians are running out of obedient young men. Have they thought of recruiting wymin and trans warriors? Probably not, this is real war not Disney.

    The Ukes are also unable to maintain the supply of ammunition needed for an offensive.

    The Russians have a couple of hundred thousand trained up reservists ready to roll, and plenty of ammunition.

    Soon the Euro US Ukrainian front will be forced to accept a ceasefire, they don’t want to give Trump the credit for ending the war. Bit if Biden or other Dem is re-elected, the war will go another four years.

  2. Petros says:

    When was the last decisive victory for the Yanks? Kuwait?

  3. Buccaneer says:

    How about the constant skirmishes between China and India?

  4. NFA says:

    The Pentagon reckon they have ‘un-frozen’ the situation.

    Pentagon ‘Accounting Error’ Will Free Up Extra $3 Billion for Ukraine

  5. Roger W says:

    Um, this is sort of how it was for a while but the Ukranians kept shelling over the unofficial border. This was upped on Biden’s orders to force a response from Putin some 15 months ago.

  6. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Sounds like they’re edging towards the Chinese peace deal. Does that mean another 10% for the big guy?

  7. Franx says:

    The extent of the suffering of Ukranians and the destruction of their country and the contamination of the near-and-far environment is of no concern in the ‘Planning by US officials’, climate frenzyists all, bent on bleeding Russia dry. And making money in the process.

  8. jupes says:

    I suspect it won’t go on for years. Perhaps it will end some time this year. When it does, Ukraine will be a smaller country. While I don’t expect an unconditional surrender, Russia will set the terms.

  9. jupes says:

    When was the last decisive victory for the Yanks? Kuwait?

    I would say the defeat of the Taliban in 2001 and the defeat of Sadam’s army in 2003 were decisive victories at the time. Unfortunately, they totally fucked up the next stage. Big time.

  10. Nix says:

    Nice to see you all Cheri g the murderous Putin Regime.

  11. Buccaneer says:

    A never ending war suits the Biden crime family, a never ending place to wash billions of taxpayers through the same way a drug dealer would at the poker machines.

  12. NFA says:

    crusada nix lurches from his closet after 11am but it needs a bit more power or the drugs haven’t kicked in properly yet.

  13. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    I suspect it won’t go on for years. Perhaps it will end some time this year. When it does, Ukraine will be a smaller country.

    No, it can only freeze, since a peace deal is subject to a referendum, and the Ukie people will say hell no. Which means endless low grade warfare like between 2013-2021.

    The only participant that can make peace is Russia, and they can’t do that without extremely fatal consequences to a whole lot of high echelon people. So there will be no peace. A deep freeze is the absolute best that is possible.

    It is theoretically possible for the Ukrainian government to collapse sufficiently that the referendum requirement could go by the wayside, but I see no signs of that. I see more signs that the Russians have such problems. I doubt they’re serious enough to represent anything real, but they’re more real than anything that could cause a sufficient phase change in Ukraine.

  14. jupes says:

    Bruce. Wars don’t end by referendum.

  15. Roger W says:

    Bruce of N, the area roughly currently under Russian control did have a sort of referendum and voted overwhelmingly for being part of Russia but Biden’s corrupt minions in Ukraine wouldn’t accept that – not enabling their continuation of the gravy train for sections of The West.

  16. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    I was amused by that particular referendum Roger. 😀 Which isn’t to say that a Ukie peace deal referendum would be any different. But the Ukie people are a tad unhappy with Russians right now, from what I can discern, and I’m sure any referendum would be in the negative.

    And Jupes…we agree. The war won’t end by referendum, because it won’t end. People in that part of the world keep grudges until they’re fossilized and eroded away.

    The Russians could in theory end the war by winning. But to do that they would have to fight their way through Ukie housewives armed with kitchen knives and screwdrivers. The hatred right now is off scale.

    And if there was any sign that the Russians were making progress the EU weenies would double down on supporting the Ukies.

    The best that Putin can do is freeze it solid, get the West to lose interest, then perhaps rebuild a serious and capable army like China has carefully been doing. But Vlad doesn’t have enough years left to do that, so he’ll just keep going.

    This is all an excellent advertisement for ye olde European absolute monarchies, since if the King said “let’s deal” the deal would happen, with suitable transfers of territory or dosh. That doesn’t seem to be feasible with democracies, emotions run too high for it.

  17. jupes says:

    The Russians could in theory end the war by winning.

    Good plan. I like it.

    And if there was any sign that the Russians were making progress

    Check out what’s been going on in Bakhmut.

    The best that Putin can do is freeze it solid, get the West to lose interest, then perhaps rebuild a serious and capable army like China has carefully been doing.

    The Russians have the best, most capable and battle hardened army on the planet at the minute.

  18. Franx says:

    they would have to fight their way through Ukie housewives armed with kitchen knives and screwdrivers. The hatred right now is off scale.

    That might be the case if it were assumed that all Ukranians are indeed ethnic-cultural Ukranians and not in any way ethnically, Hungarian, Romanian, Bulgarian Roma, nor indeed Russian to any extent.

  19. Boambee John says:

    Nix seems to be a record stuck in a groove, always the same comment, regardless of relevance.

    Or perhaps a low quality bot.

  20. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Check out what’s been going on in Bakhmut.

    Yep. Answer: not much.

    There’re excited claims about advancing 305 metres or 1 km, which is fun since the latter is about as far as from my house to the railway station, which takes me 7 minutes to walk to.

    I do look at these things you know. In quite a bit of detail.

    There’s been more angst between Prigozhin and the regulars in the last couple days. He claims Wagner gave the Bakhmut flank security over to the regs and the regs skedaddled. He wasn’t happy. That may all be for show though, as I said the advances lately are measured in metres, including the alleged skedaddling. Some of the Russian mil bloggers haven’t been happy though, including Col. Girkin, but then he’s usually unhappy.

  21. jupes says:

    Yep. Answer: not much.

    Well, they own over 99% of it. But that’s not the point. The Russians are using Bakhmut to destroy the Ukrainian army. Artillery is key in Russian doctrine and they have a numerical advantage in tubes and shells.

    Check out what the Ukes had to put up with in the ‘Citadel’ area of Bakhmut (since fallen). Terrifying.

    https://twitter.com/MikaelValterss1/status/1658900336508116999

  22. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    To be fair it looks like Wagner or somebody have made some advances since yesterday arvo our time. So yes, you are more up to date than I was. I’m just having a browse now of some of the sites I have bookmarked.

    Interesting question whether the Russians are using Bakhmut to destroy the Ukie army or the Ukrainians are using it to destroy the Russkie army.

    On the other hand I see recent intel that the Russians are laying a lot of AT-62M mines on the roads leaving Soledar to the east. Which if true suggests they have indications of some Ukie armour lurking to the north of Bakhmut. That would be a logical place to stage from I guess.

  23. jupes says:

    Interesting question whether the Russians are using Bakhmut to destroy the Ukie army or the Ukrainians are using it to destroy the Russkie army.

    Well to quote Big Serge on twitter:

    As the Battle of Bakhmut finally ends, let’s reflect on the fact that the AFU threw the better part of an Army Corps in to hold the city against a PMC and lost. Truly remarkable.

  24. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Big Serge is a lot of fun. By now according to his calcs the entire Ukrainian population has died in the Bakhmut trenches.

    Given the near WW1 dynamics I still think casualties are roughly equal. Russia has more artillery but they have been attacking against dug in infantry. You can never believe the numbers from either side though.

    And aside from the zone around the wider Bakhmut area there’s been nothing happening on the ground at all. Whether that means one or other side is shaping up for an offensive elsewhere I don’t know, but with abundant OSINT available, including sat pics these days you’d think someone would spot something if it was in offing.

    Which further suggests the conflict is very near frozen.

  25. jupes says:

    By now according to his calcs the entire Ukrainian population has died in the Bakhmut trenches.

    No. The big fella is quite measured. He’s also accurate with his predictions. Might be worth your while to cut him a bit of slack.

  26. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    He’s also accurate with his predictions.

    Ukie bloggers, I have to admit, have also said most of the Russian population has already died on the approaches of Bakhmut also. Maybe the Chinese will now move into the depopulated lands of Russia and Ukraine. Big Serge should never encounter Illia Ponomarenko, or the world will be destroyed in a blast of mutually annihilative blog energy.

  27. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    I am a fan of black humour, although this war is challenging even me on this subject. It’d be better if so many guys weren’t dying and being maimed for such total futility. But that’s eastern Europe for you.

  28. Franx says:

    But that’s eastern Europe for you.

    Well, yes, Eastern Europe is indeed the site of the conflict, both physically and ideationally, yet it is not Eastern Europe which has alone and as a matter of intent occasioned the conflict. It is facile to resort to making or accepting stereotypical connotations of Eastern Europe as made up if irrational peoples in contrast to the supposed rationality and advanced civilisation of Western peoples when it happens to be that it is Eastern Europe which is revealing Western depravity and failed civilisation, saying, ‘That’s western Europe for you.’

  29. jupes says:

    Bakhmut has fallen. The biggest battle of the 21st century has ended.

  30. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    ‘That’s western Europe for you.’

    A point, a definite point. Maybe the EU could send some tranny battalions to Ukraine. The Russians would die in droves, of laughter.

  31. DAN says:

    Have you guys ever heard of Daria Zaritskaya?

    She’s the dark one! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loKqHFV5o2M

    She’s a Ukrainian Hottie, – real deal. She’s also a singer, she does covers and is trying to get her own stuff out there. The reason I am bringing her lovely self up is that the three guys in her group haven’t been called up, and they’re clearly in their 20s. AND she stayed in the Keiv area throughout the war, when other women were hightailing it, (understandably so!)

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