Vendetta lunch lasted longer than David Sharaz’s first marriage

I have every confidence that you will answer that very eloquently, but it’s one you just need to really think about. I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but if you can enunciate the fact that this place is all about suppression of people’s natural sense of justice.”

– Lisa Wilkinson, putting words into the mouth of Brittany Higgins
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  1. C.L. says:

    Brittany Higgins and Lisa Wilkinson war-gamed how to recruit prominent politicians and media figures who could help give ­momentum to their upcoming ­interview on The Project, as the TV host made suggestions to the former Liberal staffer about how to frame her story.

    The more than five-hour session, which also involved Ms Higgins’ boyfriend David Sharaz and Wilkinson’s producer Angus Llewellyn, was recorded on January 27, 2021 a few days before they filmed the interview that was broadcast on February 15 revealing Ms Higgins’ claims she had been raped in Parliament House.

    The group brainstormed MPs who would “fire questions” in question time over the alleged sexual assault, highlighting Labor leaders Anthony Albanese and Tanya Plibersek as key players, with Wilkinson highly critical of former foreign minister Julie Bishop for refusing to “speak out” against the poor culture of Parliament House.

    The recording revelations came as Bruce Lehrmann accused Ms Higgins of lying about being raped to save her job, and for the first time revealed how her sexual assault allegation forced him to contemplate jumping in front of a train to kill himself.

    In an interview with the Seven Network, Mr Lehrmann said Ms Higgins intentionally told their shared chief of staff Fiona Brown the “white lie” that he had raped her to preserve her employment, after seeing him get sacked.

    Ms Higgins told Wilkinson that she could find some “friendly MPs” who could fire questions in question time. Wilkinson suggested Mr Albanese could be helpful, before backtracking and describing him as “a bit of a dead duck at the moment”.

    “Well, he’s in a car crash, leave him alone,” Mr Sharaz responded. “He got a lot of coverage out of that.”

    Wilkinson then suggested “Tanya Plibersek, definitely”, to which Mr Sharaz said: “Yeah”.

    Ms Higgins tells the group: “We’re doing a parliamentary showcase before all this starts. So it’s going to be great, we’re ­having fun.”

    In the hours-long pre-session, Wilkinson said Ms Higgins would have to consider how to answer questions on why she did not go to the police with her allegations.

    The Channel Ten host also told the former staffer that she did not want “to put words in your mouth” but asked if Ms Higgins “could enunciate” how the culture at Parliament House could allow a rape to occur without anyone being punished.

    “I have every confidence that you will answer that very eloquently, but it’s one you just need to really think about,” Wilkinson said.

    “I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but if you can enunciate the fact that this place is all about suppression of people’s natural sense of justice.”

    Ms Higgins in the recording also said she thought she could win against Mr Lehrmann in a civil suit if he sued, but that she was unsure her allegations could be proved “beyond reasonable doubt” in a criminal trial.

    “If he wants to go me after, like on a civil basis, I think, on the balance of probabilities, I think I could win. I think it’s, if the onus of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt, I think that would be different. I don’t think I could win that,” Ms Higgins said.

    A small part of the session was played to the court during Bruce Lehrmann’s rape trial, in which it was revealed that Ms Higgins and Mr Sharaz had proposed breaking the story in a parliamentary sitting week so that “they have to answer questions at question time, it’s a mess for them”.

    Ms Higgins said it would mean “they’re all stuck in Parliament House with it”.

    Mr Sharaz told the group: “I’ve got a friend in Labor, Katy Gallagher on the Labor side, who will probe and continue it going.”

    Cross-examined on the conversation during the trial, Ms Higgins told the court: “That wasn’t the actual interview itself and I didn’t sign a stat dec on this. This is just us talking.”

    Wilkinson lambasted Julia ­Bishop for waiting until after she left parliament to flag the sexist nature of parliament, rather than speaking up while she was in the role. “The biggest frustration that I have with Julie is that she had so many opportunities to speak out against the culture,” Wilkinson said. “And for one woman to, what was she, deputy to 13 different prime ministers over the course of her time in parliament.”

    Mr Sharaz interjected, saying: “Always loyal too. Bridesmaid, never the bride.”

    To which Wilkinson said: “The minute she was out of there (she said) ‘oh it’s really sexist’. I tried to get her on the record with that so many times when she could’ve actually affected change, and she wouldn’t.”

    When questioning whether Ms Bishop would be willing to speak out against Parliament House culture, Ms Wilkinson suggested she might refuse due to her ties to Michaelia Cash and Linda Reynolds.

    “They‘re all Perth girls,” she said. However, Ms Higgins said “they were never friends”.

    “I don‘t know why, but they never liked each other,” Ms Higgins said.

    Mr Sharaz added: “Julie doesn’t have any friends.”

    Mr Sharaz then suggested getting sexual assault survivor and advocate Grace Tame to do media the next day.

    The group also discussed whether former Liberal prime minister Malcolm Turnbull would help.

    Male voice: “He does hate (Scott) Morrison. Does he hate him that much?”

    Wilkinson: “Yeah, I think so. Malcolm, I know Malcolm well. I reckon Malcolm will talk.”

    The group also discuss Senator Reynolds, who Ms Higgins claimed had not been supportive after the alleged assault. (Senator Reynolds and her then chief of staff say Ms Higgins didn’t tell them about the alleged assault).

    At one point Wilkinson refers to Senator Reynolds as “an idiot”. When Ms Higgins’ says Senator Reynolds doesn’t “super care about my mental health”, Mr Sharaz says sarcastically: “No, Linda cares”, at which laughter is heard on the tape.

    Wilkinson: “I’ve so got her [Linda] in my sights now. Now that I’ve refreshed my memory on that.

    Mr Sharaz: “I said to Britt, ultimately, what do you want out of this? She goes, well, I want Bruce to forever have it difficult getting a job, like it’s going to be difficult for me.”

    Wilkinson: “Yeah.”

    Mr Sharaz: “And then you said, best-case scenario, Linda ­Reynolds.” Ms Higgins: “I was just ­reaching!

    At another point in the session Ms Wilkinson told the group: “I’m a great believer in people’s time will come. I’m incredibly ­patient.”

    Mr Sharaz interjects: “Linda’s time, please, god, let it be Linda’s time.”

    Wilkinson: “Well, I think it might be.”

    Mr Sharaz said Mr Lehrmann would be “shitting himself” when The Project interview was released, as Ms Higgins celebrated the fact the former Liberal staffer would never be able to run for politics.

    The Project team elected not to name Mr Lehrmann in the interview, but Ms Higgins said “that‘s all right” because people within the party would be able to put ”two and two” together, which would prevent him from ever running for politics. “He was fired at the time, he was in that office, they’ll know and that’s what matters,” she said. ”He would never get a preselection now.”

    Mr Sharaz added: “And he’ll be shitting himself when it comes out.”

    Ms Higgins described Mr Lehrmann as “one of those … legacy ones” who would inevitably run for a federal seat.

    “If enough people can put two and two together, it’ll stop him from getting preselected for the seat of Wentworth or something, one day,” she said.

    After Ms Higgins flagged concerns she may be bullied by former prime ministerial staffers Yaron Finkelstein and Andrew Carswell, along with members of Senator Cash’s office, Wilkinson said: “You know your best response, if they want to try and bully you?”

    Ms Higgins: “Hm?”

    Wilkinson: “Just look them in the eye, and say, I was raped in a minister’s office.”

    Ms Higgins likened Mr Finkelstein to the ruthless House of Cards character played by Kevin Spacey. “I’d liken Yaron to like, Frank Underwood from House of Cards,” she said. “He is like, he’s the PMO fixer. He is that guy.”

    At one point in the session Ms Higgins says that when she resigns from her job she won’t be seeking a payout. “I’m not pressing, I don’t want money. I’m not going after them with a lawyer for anything. I don’t want anything. I’m not fired, I’m not a disgruntled employee, I’m quitting.”

    Ms Higgins later took action against the Commonwealth and is believed to have settled for an amount in excess of $2m.

    ——————–

    Janet Albrechtsen & Stephen Rice in The Australian
    Additional reporting by Ellie Dudley

  2. Lee says:

    Can we have our $3 million back?

  3. C.L. says:

    First time I’ve seen Daily Mail comments open for a Higgins story.

  4. Entropy says:

    From Russia with Love. One of my favourite Bond movies, and Rosa Clebb (Lotte Lenya) was a big part of it. Tatiana Rovonova (Daniela Bianchi) was extremely beautiful as were the gipsy girls.

  5. Cassie of Sydney says:

    It goes from bad to worse to vomit inducing. All roads lead to Sharaz.

  6. twostix says:

    Mr Sharaz told the group: “I’ve got a friend in Labor, Katy Gallagher on the Labor side, who will probe and continue it going.”

    Democracy is completely fake and only exists for midwits to believe they have control. This is the real way things work.

  7. Christine says:

    The self-regarding Wilkinson is really quite grubby.
    And sly.

  8. twostix says:

    Higgins is about to be cut loose, served her purpose.

    The media, in so far as they ever mention her again, will roll on and pretend it’s surprised by the truth it knew and suppressed all along.

  9. Rafiki says:

    It is opined by eminent (in their own mind anyway) judges, former and current, and barristers that our adversarial method of finding the facts on a trial is the best available means to do so. Day by day we learn from the post-Lehrmann trial how wrong is this opinion. We know now that Fiona Brown’ was denied by the DPP the opportunity to get back in the witness box to contradict Higgins on the critical question whether she and Reynolds refused to support Higgins. Higgins claim was the bedrock of the very successful Gallagher led campaign against Morrison. I hope Sofronoff sees its significance.

    Now we learn from Parliament House video that Higgins was not, as she told the police 10/10 drunk when she entered the premises. How was it that the jury was not shown the video? Did neither side see any benefit in doing so? Or did neither side know about?

    Just two quick reflections. One, even court records can be, in fact often are, very unreliable as primary source material for historians. Two, that the European system whereby a judicial officer (who is trained for this purpose) controls the investigation is superior to or common law methods. Or, at least, a blend of both systems is. Oh, and the jury trial in a multi-ethnic society works badly.

  10. Buccaneer says:

    Our system of jurisprudence relies on the homily that the vast majority of people that make up the judicial system including prosecutors, judges, barristers, solicitors and the jury will be basically honest people. What happens when the people that make up this system think that honesty can be discarded for a higher cause? This case is one of many across the world where we are seeing this issue play out. In this case the higher cause appears to have been the perception that parliament is sexist. The problem for these people is that building a narrative on a pack of lies means any old idea can become the truth if you just want it to be badly enough.

  11. Buccaneer says:

    This higher (leftist) cause idea results in articles like this from the ABC that deliberately gloss over the crux of the issue (that Drumgold essentially triggered the Sofronoff investigation then redacted his claims against Police, how many other times has he bullshitted to help a case?) and buried the only meaningful observation at the end.

    As the inquiry into Bruce Lehrmann’s trial wrapped up this week, it was clear the goalposts had shifted.

    The former Queensland judge appointed to lead the inquiry into the prosecution of Bruce Lehrmann must have wondered what he’d walked into.

    Almost the first thing Walter Sofronoff discovered was a loophole that meant Canberra’s police officers were not legally obliged to help with his ACT board of inquiry — because they are a division of the Australian Federal Police, which operates under a Commonwealth Act, not ACT laws.

    It could have been a disaster.

    The inquiry had been sparked by claims police had pressured the ACT’s Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold not to pursue the charge against Mr Lehrmann for the alleged rape of Brittany Higgins.

    Fortunately, the police did agree to participate and the inquiry began in early May — although, as concessions were made on all sides, police officers may have at times wondered whether participating was a good idea.

    Shifting sands

    The case against Mr Lehrmann had already attracted an extraordinary level of public attention, driven by a potent mix of politics and power, with claims of a sexual assault in a minister’s office inside Parliament House.

    Mr Lehrmann’s trial ended due to juror misconduct, and a planned retrial was later abandoned, leaving no findings against him.

    But one thing Mr Sofronoff made clear from the start was that he would not be looking into the facts of the case itself, rather his attention would be on the actions of justice agencies, including whether prosecutors, police or the Victims of Crime Commissioner, Heidi Yates, did anything wrong during the trial.

    At the outset, Mr Sofronoff thought he would have to consider if the prosecution should have gone ahead or not, given the obvious police reluctance to charge Mr Lehrmann.

    But when he asked anyone involved in the inquiry if they wanted to argue against the prosecution, you could hear a pin drop.

    He must have wondered why he was there, given the gist of the dispute seemed to evaporate.

    As it turned out, there was plenty more to consider.

    Accusations crumble but tensions remain

    The ACT’s top prosecutor had suggested police were conspiring with Mr Lehrmann’s lawyers in a bid to sabotage the trial and made further assertions that there may have been political interference.

    This was partly based on his perception that the defence team was conferring with police even during the trial.

    Mr Lehrmann’s barrister Steve Whybrow told the inquiry he had met Detective Inspector Marcus Boorman twice while the jury deliberated, telling the inquiry the senior officer, who had been deeply involved in the investigation, had said he’d resign if Mr Lehrmann was found guilty.

    There is, of course, no reason a defence barrister can’t approach police, but the inquiry heard senior commanders were concerned about the perception that could create in a case with such intense public interest.

    There was also an incident when Ms Higgins’s counselling notes were sent to the defence team, at the very start of the prosecution process.

    In the end, the Director of Public Prosecutions, Mr Drumgold backed away from the claims of interference, saying after he’d read the police statements he realised there was no conspiracy, but rather a ‘”skills deficit” among police.

    As his evidence unfolded, it became clear the tension between prosecutors and police had been growing since long before the inquiry, with a dispute over the threshold for laying charges in sexual assault matters.

    The presumption of innocence

    At the same time as the board of inquiry, a separate review was underway, looking at possible undercharging by officers, and prompting police to set up an audit of cases that had initially been rejected.

    Mr Drumgold told the inquiry police were using the wrong test for when to lay charges.

    The ACT Magistrates Court Act includes a rule that charges can be laid “in any case where a person has committed or is suspected of having committed … an indictable offence or an offence that may be dealt with summarily”.

    But police who gave written statements to the inquiry could not agree on the threshold for charging, giving a total of 16 different answers, ranging from suspicion to proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

    This is one area Mr Sofronoff is likely to explore in detail in his final report to the ACT government.

    The task will be to develop some kind of guidance — somewhere between instinct and the jury’s task — to determine when charges should be laid.

    Another tricky job for Mr Sofronoff will be to address the question of the presumption of innocence and the impact some events may have had on the prosecution.

    At the same time as the board of inquiry, a separate review was underway, looking at possible undercharging by officers, and prompting police to set up an audit of cases that had initially been rejected.

    Mr Drumgold told the inquiry police were using the wrong test for when to lay charges.

    The ACT Magistrates Court Act includes a rule that charges can be laid “in any case where a person has committed or is suspected of having committed … an indictable offence or an offence that may be dealt with summarily”.

    But police who gave written statements to the inquiry could not agree on the threshold for charging, giving a total of 16 different answers, ranging from suspicion to proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

    This is one area Mr Sofronoff is likely to explore in detail in his final report to the ACT government.

    The task will be to develop some kind of guidance — somewhere between instinct and the jury’s task — to determine when charges should be laid.

    Another tricky job for Mr Sofronoff will be to address the question of the presumption of innocence and the impact some events may have had on the prosecution.

    The issue first arose in a Logies speech by journalist Lisa Wilkinson in June last year, as she took home a silver Logie award for her interview with Ms Higgins on The Project.

    A few days later, the ACT’s Chief Justice, Lucy McCallum, agreed to delay Mr Lehrmann’s trial, which had been about to start in the Supreme Court, blasting Ms Wilkinson for making the speech.

    The concern was that by elevating Ms Higgins’s case, Mr Lehrmann’s right to the presumption of innocence was denied.

    In her statement to the inquiry, Ms Wilkinson denied she had been warned by Mr Drumgold that the trial could be affected by her speech.

    During the inquiry, Mr Drumgold was subjected to an intense cross-examination by Ms Wilkinson’s lawyer, Sue Chrysanthou, who pointed out her client had not received a clear warning, but had been blasted on front pages across the nation as if she had.

    Mr Drumgold accepted he should have given a clearer direction.

    “I would accept that I entirely misread the situation,” he told the inquiry.

    The Victims of Crime Commissioner, Heidi Yates, was also subject to a blasting — this time from police — over her highly visible presence during the trial, walking into court with Ms Higgins each day.

    But officers withdrew their criticism “after reading the act” under which Ms Yates works.

    Mr Sofronoff raised concerns himself during the inquiry that there may be a tension between the ACT Human Rights Act, which guarantees the presumption of innocence, and Ms Yates’s job, which includes helping “victims of crime”, even in instances where there has been no conviction.

    Ms Yates told the inquiry no-one had said a word to her about their concerns until afterwards, and she had not considered the misunderstanding that could result.

    The inquiry wrapped up its public hearings on Thursday.

    Lawyers in the case are now preparing final submissions with the report to be handed to the government by the end of July.

    But the recommendations won’t be revealed until the government has had time to review the results.

  12. Old School Conservative says:

    Entirely off topic for a moment – keep up the excellent work C.L.
    You have one of the best blogs ever.

  13. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    At least they didn’t claim Mr Lehrmann once peed in Obama’s hotel bed. Maybe they will reserve that evidence for the appeals. I know someone who could help them do up a dossier if they need one to flesh out the allegation. He’s not too expensive.

  14. Buccaneer says:

    What OSC said

  15. SydGal says:

    The early commentary seemed to focus on “cover-up” in the PM’s office. P Wong and K Gallagher questioning L Reynolds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM1MLsrirQ8&ab_channel=GuardianAustralia and there is a similar one of them questioning Philip Gaetjens, then Secretary of PMO. M Dreyfus has a speech re Higgins at March4Justice (15 March 2021) on his website which includes elements of her speech/the prosecution case, and a discussion on the Rule of Law: https://www.markdreyfus.com/media/speeches/adjournment-speech-march4justice-mark-dreyfus-qc-mp/

  16. NFA says:

    what Old School Conservative says…

  17. Buccaneer says:

    That Dreyfus speech is a disgrace. A man who is now the highest officer of the law in the country co-opted the concept of rule of law to pre-empt the outcome of a case in order to sledge a political opponent.

    How can anyone now feel confident that the rule of law means anything if their case defies the ruling party’s ideological orthodoxy? Where are the media panning this?

  18. Lee says:

    That Dreyfus speech is a disgrace.

    Dreyfus is a disgrace.

  19. Old Lefty says:

    And Dreyfus is now picking High Court judges: Victoria here we come.

    Note also that Sharaz’s good friend Senator Gallagher, as minister for finance, later approved a multi-million dollar payout for Higgins with a speed – and a lack of due process – that seems to have broken all records.

    If Dreyfus’s hand-picked anti-corruption commission is anything more than a partisan political sham (but we all know it isn’t), that payout should be its first inquiry.

  20. cuckoo says:

    My ouija board supplies this unreported exchange from that meeting:

    Wilkinson: whaddya reckon the chances are of Morrison giving a pre-emptive apology to Britt in Parliament?
    (general laughter)
    Higgins: Not even he could be that dumb.

  21. Lee says:

    Wilkinson: whaddya reckon the chances are of Morrison giving a pre-emptive apology to Britt in Parliament?
    (general laughter)
    Higgins: Not even he could be that dumb.

    Yes he could, his political savvy is that bad.

  22. rosie says:

    And so smug they let the entire exchange be recorded.

  23. C.L. says:

    Who leaked the recording, though?

  24. Mantaray says:

    Regarding Morrison’s F’wittery on this matter: Kinda hard to see how any PM (or Premier) will ever be on the level again….

    In the past eighteen months we’ve seen two examples of pollies getting top jobs here and overseas: starting immediately strong….but then being pulled into line by “someone” or “someones”. Perrotet in NSW; IMMEDIATELY ended the mask and vax passport mandates (control by WHO / WEF-owned health bureaucrats) and then about 5 days later was over-ridden. and he re-instated the previous orders….and that sheila in Britain who was PM for a couple of weeks before FLEEING,

    My mate reckons the way they do it in the US is the CIA shows incoming Presidents the tapes of how JFK REALLY died, but has anyone here got yupdates on the rest of them?

    BTW: Who’s got the films of Harold Holt’s and Dan Andrews’ unfortunate accidents d’ya reckon?

  25. twostix says:

    Re the leak, I don’t think anyone actually likes Higgins, she reeks of an mid-tier kind of uncool girl who got the chance to hang around with the cool girls for a week because she had some novelty that they were interested in.

    They’re sick of her now and if she’s lucky they’ll just run her off, if she’s unlucky…mean girls are going to mean girl.

  26. Lee says:

    BTW: Who’s got the films of Harold Holt’s and Dan Andrews’ unfortunate accidents d’ya reckon?

    If anyone has the latter, he or she is in excellent position with regard to – ahem – “leverage” over him.

  27. rosie says:

    The audio was handed over by Channel 10 under subpoena during the criminal tria

    from this news.com.au story

  28. Rabz says:

    How was it that the jury was not shown the video? Did neither side see any benefit in doing so? Or did neither side know about?

    I knew years ago there was video of those two idiots entering parliament on the morning in question, as it was noted that Hoggins was unable to put her shoes back on after having taken them off to get through the security screen.

    Funny that the video should mysteriously resurface again now, well after that stinking farce of a trial was aborted.

    Also interesting is the revelation that the jury was 11-1 to acquit, something Drumkopf seems to have been desperate to ensure didn’t become public knowledge.

  29. Lee says:

    Also interesting is the revelation that the jury was 11-1 to acquit, something Drumkopf seems to have been desperate to ensure didn’t become public knowledge

    Funny, someone here, based on no evidence at all, keeps maintaining that the jury was 11-1 in favour of guilty.

  30. Old Lefty says:

    A clarification, Rabz. No one other than the jurors is supposed to know waht goes on in the jury room, unless one of them complains to or raises an issue with the judge; and in that case, it remains confidential between the jurors and the judge.

    So if Drumgold really knows what went on in the jury room, there has been an illegal disclosure. And if he doesn’t really know, he is – yet again – making things up, like the theory about a conservative political conspiracy to interfere in the trial which he put before the jury without evidence and had to retract under Sofronoff’s questioning.

    Add to that the admission that he twice (unintentionally, of course!) misled the judge during the trial, and the testimony from the police that he told them to charge Lehrmann before he had even looked at the brief of evidence, and you have a pretty damning indictment.

  31. Old Lefty says:

    Drumgold’s claim was that the jury was 11-1 to convict and that the holdout was the offending juror who brought the research paper into the jury room. Either an illegal leak or a baseless piece of speculation based on feelz/the Vibe.

  32. Lee says:

    There should be a Royal Commission into the whole stinking affair.

    But there won’t, at least not while Labor is in government – too many backs to protect.

  33. Buccaneer says:

    Now it’s become clear that Sharaz’s special friend was the mean girl in chief, the first order of business for sleazy’s new icac should be to examine if there was political interference that led to a trial commencing against the recommendation of the afp.

  34. Lee says:

    Mike Carlton is upset because his comrades Lisa and Peter Fitzsimian have the scrutiny turned on them:

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/06/mike-carlton-watched-channel-7s-bruce-lehrmann-interview-was-amazed-and-astounded.html

  35. SydGal says:

    In relation to the jury, this is from the transcript of day 6 of the Board of Inquiry:
    MR WHYBROW: Well, correct. I didn’t know if we were going to succeed in a not guilty, given the pretrial publicity, but for what it’s worth, Mr Chair, we as the defence team thought there were 10 people on the jury who were in favour of an acquittal. But then I could give you –
    THE CHAIRPERSON: Yes, but then Mr Drumgold thought there were 11 in favour of
    conviction.
    MR WHYBROW: Yes, but I’m sure we could –
    THE CHAIRPERSON: It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter.
    MR WHYBROW: It’s a pointless exercise.
    THE CHAIRPERSON: Well, it’s just –
    MR WHYBROW: It’s guessing.
    THE CHAIRPERSON: It’s the way you look at trials from one side of the bar table or the other, isn’t it?

    In a March news story, it was reported that five days into trial the judge had a private meeting with Lehrmann’s defence lawyer and said that should his client decide to plead guilty, she would take that into ­account when sentencing. I think that was during Higgins’ break in giving evidence – limited media reporting then as a suppression order was in place – perhaps the time that Parliament House staff, security guards etc gave evidence. Difficult to know without transcripts.

  36. Rabz says:

    No one other than the jurors is supposed to know what goes on in the jury room

    I’m aware of that, OL, having been a juror in a sexual assault case in the ACT. However, we were unanimous in our decisions, so no holdouts in that case. I was under the impression that the 11-1 for acquittal had been leaked or discussed publicly, as per the contents of SydGal’s comment above.

    Given there was zero evidence tendered in that stinking farce of a trial that could have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that Lehrmann was guilty of sexual assault, it strikes me as utterly ridiculous that a jury would have been 11-1 in favour of conviction.

  37. Jed says:

    Wise words from a young Mr Lehrmann when asked about Canberra politics: “A bunch of losers on both sides” 👍

  38. Buccaneer says:

    That Drumgold had to back down on pretty much everything when quizzed by the Sofranoff enquiry, it’s hardly a stretch to realise his assertion about the jury was just more gaslighting.

  39. Perfidious Albino says:

    Just the other week wasn’t Drumgold claiming to have seen, but not to have the CCTV footage in question, essentially insinuating that the AFP had ‘lost’ it and/or becoming confused at possibly having seen a TV reenactment rather than the real McCoy. Yet here we are with the relevant footage turning up on ACA or whatever. Beggars belief.

  40. Buccaneer says:

    It’s pretty clear why the afp doesn’t think much of Drumgold, by his words he watched that video and presented her evidence that she was so shattered drunk that she had trouble putting her shoes back on with no question or conscience. I bet this is one of many.

  41. Rabz says:

    Yet here we are with the relevant footage turning up on ACA or whatever. Beggars belief.

    Unfortunately, nothing about this stinking farce beggars belief. I would like to hear some sort of logical explanation as to why the footage has resurfaced now and why it wasn’t tendered during the trial.

    Obviously too much to hope for, given what’s transpired.

    presented her evidence that she was so shattered drunk that she had trouble putting her shoes back on

    Yet the video clearly shows her not being able to put her shoes back on.

  42. jupes says:

    It is opined by eminent (in their own mind anyway) judges, former and current, and barristers that our adversarial method of finding the facts on a trial is the best available means to do so.

    A large proportion of many trials is spent in ‘legal argument’, which is a euphemism for attempts to hide evidence from the jury.

  43. C.L. says:

    The system is broken and feminists broke it. The minds of some of these women are ill-suited to the dispassionate administration of justice. Just because they’re militant and opinionated doesn’t mean they’re not hysterical.

  44. NFA says:

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha… rofl

    what C.L. says…

  45. Buccaneer says:

    She wasn’t having trouble getting her shoes on, Bruce moves on and even a dead sober person would have had to abort getting them on to keep up. Bruce was clearly, in the video untroubled about whether or not she kept up, not the behaviour of a predator herding an impaired victim to their fate.

  46. Winston says:

    Correct Buccaneer. There was, precisely, zero evident impairment in her effort to put the shoes on. The implication that her being drunk was an issue, is false. It was simply a case that the shoes she was wearing are not a slip on/off type, and instead of taking the time required to put them back on while the guard and Bruce walked off, she carried them instead.

    Also of note, in the pub footage, it was Brittany reaching out to touch Bruce multiple times, not the other way around.

  47. Boambee John says:

    Winston

    Re the pub footage, was she trying to set a trap? Was he hoping that she would go away?

  48. Winston says:

    Hard to say, it’s only a snippet of the whole night. Definitely on the getting his attention end of the spectrum, not on the ‘get away from me’ end.

    Given that in police interviews she claimed that prior to that night, Bruce had made at least one pass at her and had previously tried to kiss her, her body language shows, again precisely, zero evident discomfort in actually reaching out to touch him.

  49. SydGal says:

    Yes, Winston, I think I saw two touches by BH to BL at the pub. Her Tinder date was pictured but apparently left after 40 minutes. Also, some proposed Victorian legislation is concerning (extract from https://mercatornet.com/the-brittany-higgins-case-shows-the-fragile-state-of-australian-justice/82072/):

    “Justice in Australia is all but dead. And if you think this an exaggeration, consider the following consultation paper — released by the Victorian government — which proposes giving “complete immunity” to complainants from defamation suits. According to The Sydney Morning Herald,

    Sexual assault and harassment complainants would have an immunity against being sued for defamation over reports to police and other authorities under a proposal being considered nationally.

    Victoria is leading the push to extend the existing defamation defence of absolute privilege to people who make complaints to police and bodies such as anti-discrimination commissions and professional disciplinary bodies.

    The “complete immunity and defence” would apply “even where the speaker deliberately or maliciously made a false or misleading statement”.

  50. Ed Case says:

    Ms Higgins described Mr Lehrmann as “one of those … legacy ones” who would inevitably run for a federal seat.

    Who was the legacy from?
    All we know about Lerhmann is that he was born in Texas and his father died when he wa s 2.

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