Cracked code version: The Ukrainian army is being annihilated

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35 Responses to Cracked code version: The Ukrainian army is being annihilated

  1. Franx says:

    It would be helpful if an Australian military analyst would inform the local population as to what, eg, it may mean – in terms of lives and land laid waste – when someone like Zelenski says that an offensive is engaged ‘repelling assaults’ yet ‘going forward’.

  2. Ed Case says:

    According to Lukashenko, the Peace Deal Putin offered Ukraine was that they could lease Crimea and Donbass for 15 years, then negotiate ownership.
    Putin hasn’t denied it yet.

  3. C.L. says:

    Since the war began, Western media have been saying that Russia has lost every battle, that everything it tries fails and that Ukraine’s prowess-at-arms has no equal in modern history – more or less.

    So you can be certain that when the narrative shifts to ‘both sides are doing it tough’, what that really means is that Ukraine is being badly, catastrophically hammered. And that fits with what is known (so far) of the “counteroffensive.”

    As for Zelenski, I have a degree of sympathy for him these days because he is no longer in control of anything. Not even the talking points. Were he to radically depart from – and seek to overturn – the Endless War ‘plan’, he would be replaced by Washington very quickly. In fact, he would be lucky to escape with his life.

  4. Perfidious Albino says:

    I doubt Zelensky survives full stop. They’ll need to clean house before this ends. 50/50 whether it’s set up as a ‘coup’ or if they think there is more mileage in him being martyred in a ‘Russian’ hit.

  5. Tel says:

    The government in Kyiv is rounding up anyone it can get hold of and simply sending them out to die pointlessly. NATO is 100% in support of this slaughter and they would be just as happy to throw Poland or Finland or Romania under the same bus. As long as it hurts the Russians and gets them a bigger budget the Western bureaucrats don’t care.

    It’s tragic … and I think the backlash will come, as more people realize how badly this adventure is failing.

  6. Baba says:

    Aussie F/A-18 Hornets could address Ukraine’s “pressing need”.

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraines-ambassador-confirms-interest-in-australias-f-a-18-hornets

    Why Ukraine has a “pressing need” when they are sticking it to the Russians is not explained.

  7. Franx says:

    It is indeed tragic and beyond belief the utter contempt of the US, the UK and the EU towards Ukraine.

  8. Texas Jack says:

    Ukraine may not be achieving anything approaching what the Finns achieved in 1939, but outnumbered as they are it’s standing up well considering the Russian advantage.

    Anyone with the slightest interest in the preservation of the system of sovereign states should be applauding. Even those who choose to use Russian cultural standards as the global benchmark.

  9. Fat Tony says:

    Anyone with the slightest interest in the preservation of the system of sovereign states should be applauding.

    Hitler’s Germany, Stalin’s USSR and Mao’s China were all sovereign states – please applaud them.

  10. Texas Jack says:

    Hitler’s Germany, Stalin’s USSR and Mao’s China were all sovereign states – please applaud them.

    Surely even my misguided applause would be better than clapping seals hoping to impress the keepers of the echo chamber?

  11. Franx says:

    Well, the Ukranians did not start off outnumbered.
    Nor are they said to have suffered a great loss of lives.
    They should not then be outnumbered.
    And the US and the rest had for years earlier been arming Ukraine in readiness, controlling the time and terms for Ukraine to take on Russia.
    So something has gone horribly wrong if the Ukranians are outnumbered.
    To think that, though, would be only if one thought Ukraine and Ukranians mattered.

  12. Fat Tony says:

    Surely even my misguided applause would be better than clapping seals hoping to impress the keepers of the echo chamber?

    Misguided applause is not a good thing. Is it to impress Biden & Co? Or the Never-ending-War industry?

  13. Ed Case says:

    Philip Knightley wrote a book about Black Propaganda during War.
    The British are masters of it.
    I’d be disinclined to believe any of Nix’s link, if only because the Russians are only occupying ethnic Russian areas at the moment.

  14. dover_beach says:

    Ukraine may not be achieving anything approaching what the Finns achieved in 1939, but outnumbered as they are it’s standing up well considering the Russian advantage.

    Anyone with the slightest interest in the preservation of the system of sovereign states should be applauding. Even those who choose to use Russian cultural standards as the global benchmark.

    Everything points to the Russians attempting to get Zelensky to the negotiating table in late Feb ’22 by means of the SMO. That is why their force was considerably smaller (less than 200K) than that required for a full scale invasion (1M or greater). That got Zelensky to the table and an agreement was secured in Turkey and initialled by Zelensky’s negotiator. Elements in UKR were not happy though. SBU murdered a Ukrainian negotiator. As RUS forces pulled out of the northern provinces – part of the agreement – Bucha was fabricated in the intervening three days. US promises to provide UKR with HiMARs and the like as well as its intelligence and surveillance assets. UKR now reneges. The advantage for most of ’22 was with UKR. They had militarised the south, were already on a war footing since ’15, mobilised earlier, and were now being fed arms, armour, intelligence, planning, and surveillance by NATO.
    As to the sovereignty pablum, if UKR is the puppet in a proxy war it’s already been surrendered.

  15. dover_beach says:

    C.L., Ukrainian sources now confirm your hunch:

    The Kyiv Independent
    @KyivIndependent
    ⚡️ISW: Ukrainian forces may be temporarily pausing counteroffensive operations to reevaluate tactics.

    The Institute for the Study of War quoted the head of the Estonian Defense Forces Intelligence Center Colonel Margo Grosberg who said on June 16 that “we won’t see an offensive (operation by Ukraine) over the next seven days.”

  16. Rabz says:

    if they think there is more mileage in him being martyred in a ‘Russian’ hit

    You vill eat ze polonium sandvitch, Vlod …”

  17. Texas Jack says:

    As to the sovereignty pablum, if UKR is the puppet in a proxy war it’s already been surrendered.

    Which will be interesting news to people living in places like South Korea.

    Characterization of the conflict as a proxy war seems reasonable. So what? If a proxy war can dim the motivations of others, Xi especially, I say proxy away.

  18. Franx says:

    Meanwhile, investment opportunities abound for the reconstruction of Ukraine. Lots of green and surveillance technology to be advanced there, together with surveillance control over a depleted population. London is hosting one such recovery conference.

  19. John of Mel says:

    If a proxy war can dim the motivations of others

    Currently all it does, is say to the world “with friends like America, who needs enemies?”.

  20. Texas Jack says:

    With friends like America, countries like ours have retained freedoms, including the freedom to get away with spending only 2% of GDP on our own defence.

    Maybe C.L. should do a poll of Taiwanese people. See how they’d vote on ongoing NATO support for Ukraine?

  21. Riversutra says:

    With friends like America

    What was the saying? America a bad enemy, a terrible friend.
    We will learn that one day the hard way.
    The ANZUS treaty obliges them to consult only.
    All that faithful sidekick stuff we have been doing for decades won’t count for beans if it doesn’t suit them. President Kamala to our rescue? Crackle , crackle.

  22. Ed Case says:

    Maybe C.L. should do a poll of Taiwanese people. See how they’d vote on ongoing NATO support for Ukraine?
    The Taiwanese don’t want NATO support for Taiwan, and who could blame them.
    The U.S. says the first thing they’ll do in the event of a War with China is bomb Taiwan’s chip factories.

  23. Texas Jack says:

    Secretary Blinken is well-named: “We do not support Taiwan independence.”

    Strategic Ambiguity, C.L. Strategic ambiguity.

  24. NFA says:

    Blinken’s parents are long time Soros devotees.

    It’s on the record unless scrubbed.

  25. Tel says:

    Anyone with the slightest interest in the preservation of the system of sovereign states should be applauding.

    When you use the word “preservation”, it’s only meaningful when alongside a quick rundown of the cases where the system has already failed:

    1979-1981: USA supports military violence against civillians in El Salvador.

    1982: CIA involvement in Chad … escalated into thousands of political killings, and eventully war against Libya.

    1984: CIA secretly supplies weapons to Contra Rebels in Nicaragua, using drug money to circumvent U.S. Congress.

    1989: USA invades Panama … deposing Manuel Noriega who was trained at the School of the Americas, earlier shipping cocaine in support of Contra Rebels.

    1992-1995: “United Task Force” (UNITAF) in Somalia … ultimately US military base still there today … fighting small scale rebel groups and shifting alliances with local warlords.

    1994,1995: NATO bombs Bosnian Serbs.

    1999: NATO bombs Yugoslavia to support Kosovo separatists.

    2001: Invasion of Afghanistan, nominally to bring OBL back to face trial (which never happened) … followed by ever-shifting new justifications, nation building, girls schools, etc.

    2003: Invasion of Iraq, based on faulty intelligence and dishonest warnings of WMD’s.

    2009: Coup in Honduras, followed up with US military bases and “death squad” security forces (search Juan Carlos Bonilla, and many others trained by the School of the Americas).

    2011: NATO intervention in Libya, collapses the country which remains divided to this day … open air slave markets, mass murder of Tuareg people.

    2012: USA pressure on Syria … “Assad Must Go!”

    2013: Rise of Islamic State in Syria … supplied weapons by US covertly (Timber Sycamore) and then used to justify US military in Syria.

    2014: US/EU interference in Ukraine, with the target being NATO capture of Sevatopol.

    There’s surely more than these. I haven’t included covert international influence by the USSR and the communists, which was not inconsiderable, but at least Russians now accept that communism was wrong (both morally and a failure in practical terms) and the USSR is done and gone. No doubt China has also done some of this kind of stuff, but not as much.

  26. Petros says:

    So from which year do we start the sovereign state thing? From when it was called Little Russia? The typical ignorance of someone who only starts from when the MSM told them.

  27. Texas Jack says:

    Tel, you forgot Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan.

    Heck, they’ve been covertly overthrowing my TV since 1956.

  28. Texas Jack says:

    The typical ignorance of someone who only starts from when the MSM told them.

    We can’t all be as smart as you, Petros.

  29. C.L. says:

    Jack, your 6.54 was spammed.
    I only just got to de-spam it.

  30. C.L. says:

    I read it all.
    *Phew*
    Very impressive.

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