100 years after the advent of ‘bathtub gin’ during Prohibition…

14 Responses to 100 years after the advent of ‘bathtub gin’ during Prohibition…

1. NFA says:

   10 July, 2023 at 3:07 am

   Vapes have been found to contain a dangerous cocktail of chemicals, including some of the same ingredients found in weedkiller and nail polish remover.

   I guess that would be deadly H2O they all have in common.

   Maybe they could blame excess CO2 retention from inhaling as well.
2. Mantaray says:

   10 July, 2023 at 5:13 am

   I do not give a stuff. I do not worry that youngster, oldsters, in-beteensters might harm / kill themselves by ingesting ” a dangerous cocktail of chemicals” and go to an early grave.
   Not in the least! I also do not care about Govt announcements of concern, parental shrieking, and the tears of the afflicted.

   How can that Mantaray guy be so heartless? Thanks for asking….

   We just went through years-long mass injection of dangerous cocktails of chemicals… mandated by govt….into everyone they could convince / cajole / threaten/ bully into doing it. We had millions of shriekers decrying anyone who would NOT inject the unknown and dangerous cocktails, FFS!

   There are tens…hundreds?….of thousands of deaths in Oz as a result….and this piddling vaping “menace” is a big deal? I do not get it!
3. NFA says:

   10 July, 2023 at 5:32 am

   what Mantaraysays 10 July, 2023 at 5:13 am

   I agree and only a “responsible government” would give these warnings on ‘illicit’ nicotine vapes.

   Mainly because that “responsible government” didn’t get to collect excise duty taxes on the nicotine and that upsets the cigarette manufacturers.

   The stories are legion of how sick young kids can get after inhaling their first cigarette but now it will be a vape medical pandemic that hospitals have no trouble with handling the numbers.
4. NFA says:

   10 July, 2023 at 5:32 am

   lol… wrong quote placement
5. Foxbody says:

   10 July, 2023 at 9:09 am

   Why is vaping now illegal when my understanding is it is something like 90% safer than smoking ?

   Maybe –
   Government looking for an easy/ safe opportunity to posture- we care about young people (don’t mention the compulsory gene therapy);
   Prevent reduction in the tobacco tax take;
   Avoid redundancies to the anti smoking industry.

   I suspect that the hundreds of thousands of new Alboresidents we are getting will have a higher rate of smoking than Australian citizens – so the percentage of smokers will increase a bit – cue more overwrought press releases and advertising campaigns by highly paid lifetime anti smoking industry people.

   Government and social trends and industry innovation have helped reduce smoking by maybe 70% and the same with road deaths while air pollution from cars is now down by
   maybe 90%.
   All the feasible gains in these areas have been realised – it is reasonable for us to now say to the administration state – no more intervention here, move on and get back to us when Government waste, crime, inefficient taxes, welfarism have all been reduced by say 70%.
6. Bruce of Newcastle says:

   10 July, 2023 at 10:54 am

   Boys want to be cool, and girls want to be slim. Nicotine, either as tobacco or vapes, does that for both.

   The Left has pushed pot legalization so hard that it might be becoming increasingly less cool (since rebels against authority are cool, but sheep aren’t). Consequently nicotine is getting more cool since the Left has anathemized it so religiously.

   A possible answer to the ultimate issue might be Ozempic, if it is safe to use for pretty young things who want to stay thin. That would remove one of the reasons for smoking and vaping.
7. Shy Ted says:

   10 July, 2023 at 11:02 am

   Highly implausible. The effects are near-immediate and are mostly nausea and vomiting – you feel terrible and you really don’t want any more. Try sucking on a nicotine tablet, you’ll be sorry. Teens – they’ll have been doing something else. It’s very odd they all come from one area. Where are the cases in other states?
8. Bruce of Newcastle says:

   10 July, 2023 at 11:03 am

   Foxbody – One 100 mL bottle of high purity AR grade nicotine costs about $470. I think it would do about 20,000 vapes, I worked it out once.

   By comparison one cigarette collects about $1 of tax.

   It would be ludicrous to tax that 100 mL bottle of nicotine at 4300% to make up for the lost revenue. It would also be impossible to police.

   So vapes have to be banned. The spice must flow!
9. NFA says:

   10 July, 2023 at 11:38 am

   Shy Ted says at 10 July, 2023 at 11:02 am
   It’s very odd they all come from one area. Where are the cases in other states?

   from the yahoo! reporting six teens in hospital!

   Most of the young people admitted themselves to hospitals in the South West Sydney Local Health District which includes Bankstown, Camden, Campbelltown, Fairfield, Liverpool, Wingecarribee and Wollondilly local government areas.

   7 local government areas.
10. NFA says:

    10 July, 2023 at 11:40 am

    I use swedish snus.
11. NFA says:

    10 July, 2023 at 11:46 am

    As Mantaray inferred above, if you want to talk about government approved drugs then check this,

    RFK Jr. Unleashes on Anthony Fauci, Calls Him a ‘Genuinely Bad Human Being’
12. Tel says:

    10 July, 2023 at 1:19 pm

    The article says nothing about what caused any of these teens to feel sick.

    It hints that the vapes were the cause but carefully never provides anything that would actually make the link. Whenever I see that kind of hint hint type journalism, I have a high conseuence that it’s deliberately misleading and dishonest.

    Vapes have been found to contain a dangerous cocktail of chemicals …

    That’s equivalent to saying, “Plants have been found to be poisonous” … kinda half true but containing no useful information and when put into the context of, “… therefore never eat plants” … it’s really a roundabout way of telling lies.

    A vape is a tube that holds some liquid and a heater, and it contains whatever chemical someone put in there. Of course you should not trust some random person on Snapchat selling you any kind of food, drink, medicine, or whatever … but that has nothing to do with vapes, it’s a matter of knowing where you get any supply from.
13. C.L. says:

    10 July, 2023 at 2:18 pm

    Quite so.

    I checked on several reports of this same story and not one of them explained what caused the teens’ illness. None mentioned these vapes were dodgy, off-brand garbage – which they almost certainly were. Without evidence, journalists instead implied the mere presence of nicotine is wot done it.

    That’s possible, if they were super-loaded with nicotine but is hardly the point. The point is the government could have regulated the content of vapes and allowed them to be sold to over-18s. That is regarded as best policy for a range of reasons – health reasons included – whereas prohibition is regarded by the informed (and the historically literate) as the stupidest of options.

    IMO, the federal government was prevailed upon to choose the latter simply to protect Canberra’s anti-tobacco/health policing boondoggle. The war on drugs employs a lot of people and they require enemies. In the words of Red in Shawshank Redemption, that’s how they get to “wear a tie and have a job.”
14. cuckoo says:

    10 July, 2023 at 4:12 pm

    I checked on several reports of this same story and not one of them explained what caused the teens’ illness.

    Perhaps their drinks were spiked. If only they’d done the sensible and responsible thing, and shot up heroin in an official Victorian injecting/overdose centre.