So I have to get in my car and drive to the office to sit in a cubicle and zoom with other workers who are at home because the two days I work in the office are different from the days they are in the office.”
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Meantime, the next credit crisis is in City offices.
Where does your superannuation fund invest its money Farquhar?
Two men rent a uterus then demand baby’s death when confronted with unexpected issues
Sure the gay scumbags are scumbags, but what else would you expect with this entire rent-a-womb mentality being allied to mental illness (ie that two blokes are a “couple”)?
OK, so my 7 year old neighbour’s kid reckons he’s Superman and has the suit to prove it. The father encourages the belief, and then builds a ten metre tower in the backyard for the kid’s flying practice.
The young lad is later seen being carted off to hospital. All very unexpected eh?
No doubt the staff of Atlassian are very tech savvy and communicate well on Zoom. This is not the case for many people. Also, isn’t the problem that over time, new staff members feel disconnected from their colleagues because they never meet them in person? IBM tried work-from-home years ago and abandoned it because of this lack of an esprit de corps, for want of a better term. How do you feel talking to friends or relatives over the phone or via Zoom compared to catching up with them in person?
“Mantaray says:
21 July, 2023 at 5:56 am”
So what’s your point? I fail to find anything trivial about two homosexuals renting the womb of a woman to create a Gucci handbag baby, and then when the pregnancy doesn’t go quite to “their” plan, they dispose of the baby.
Oh that’s right…..”love is love”.
” Scott Farquhar “
Scott Farquhar lives in a huge harbourside mansion in Sydney’s eastern suburbs, with sweeping water views. So, I have no dbout he really enjoys working from home, and I’m sure he did throughout the forced lockdowns, much like that other verminous hypocrite, the resident Mosman Amphibian who, when she’s not smearing indigenous Senator Jacinta Price whilst cosying up to the Bonnie and Clyde of recent Australian political history….aka Knickerless and Shazza….for the scoop of the century, which we now know to be the invention of the century, was also pushing for harder lockdowns, to force people to stay in their homes, some of whom, like me, live in tiny apartments with no garden, no pool, not even a balcony and most certainly, no harbourside views. I can’t describe how challenging living and working from home is when you live in a small apartment. It is not healthy, no wonder some people went mad. But back to Farquhar, ho hum, never mind the struggling small and medium sized CBD businesses, but who cares about them, I bet they don’t have the same interesting tax arrangements he and Cannon-Brookes’ company, Atlassian, has!
The company where I work has recently sent around an email edict telling employees they now need to come into the office at least three days a week. Good. Otherwise the CBD dies, and the thousands of businesses in the CBD die too…or perhaps such “trivialities”, as with the Mosman Amphibian, don’t matter to Farquhar?
Oh and I bet he was all for vaccination mandates, but now he doesn’t approve of back to office mandates. You gotta laugh at progressives and their incessant hypocrisy, he and his ilk are for some mandates and against others. But consistency has never been the hallmark of a progressive. This we know.
“no wonder some people went mad”
Some haven’t completely recovered from that experience – living alone in small apartments, cut off, hearing others talk of the joys of not going into the office. Parents living interstate, prevented from helping. It’s a struggle not to hate those responsible.
“Some haven’t completely recovered from that experience – living alone in small apartments, cut off, hearing others talk of the joys of not going into the office.”
Yep.
The ‘mandates’ thing is what strikes me.
If you tell millions of CBD workers they’re not ‘essential’ and that they can do their – in your view – unimportant jobs from home, it takes a lot of nerve to then turn around and threaten them because you successfully altered their perception of their own employment; all because you (the government and corporates) suddenly realise that you killed off commerce in the city and you need them to start spending (which they can’t do much of anyway because of the inflation you idiotically stoked).
I don’t care about Farquhar’s selfish needs but I am disgusted by elites treating human beings like sheep to manipulate and ‘mandate.’
“I don’t care about Farquhar’s selfish needs but I am disgusted by elites treating human beings like sheep to manipulate and ‘mandate.’”
Indeed. And it all comes from the same cauldron.
“You have to go into the office 50km away, spend hours commuting every day because immigration, become a zombie, exist in some sterile building, be assaulted by mandated woke propaganda all day, suppressing every authentic opinion you have and who you are in service to us” became a dead man walking the moment corporate America and Australia sent millions of white collar middle class jobs to the backwoods of India.
Which is an utter disaster and what we learned is they don’t care. So during covid when they governed and ordered us about like livestock people finally took their measure and realised this “corporate” thing has nothing to do with money, productivity or product outcome.
And Farqurar’s tweet is only being amplified because now that they’ve managed to wrangle people into the office three days a week (an oddly specific and very coincidentally uniform number across the corporate world that happened all at once – definitely no collusion of conspiring going on though), and now they’re pushing to say “oh, well in that case I guess you better all come back in Tues, Wed, Thursday then”.
But the true situation on the ground is this: come back to the office to sit at your zoo-noise level open plan desk surrounded by all of the imported mandated ‘diversity’ hires, and then spend all day on zoom calls with 85IQ Indians in shanties in the backwoods of India who are engaged in mass national fraud pretending to be professionals: software developers, BA’s, Tech BA’s, product managers etc, etc that the bugman class fully support, who themselves work from home…and you have to do your job, the jobs of the people who they replaced, and their jobs too because they literally can’t do it.
And it’s all simply because we hate your guts”.
That’s the reality.
It’s not 1990 anymore, it’s not even 2010 anymore. Anyone with a convervative traditionalist bone in their body should be 1000% for extracting people from the mass woke-left bugman hives in the CBD and getting them back as close to hearth, home and community as possible.
I’m torn.
On the one hand, there is a lot of value going to work. Interacting with other people is essential to a healthy life. Working from home is debilitating. If I was running a company, I would want all my employees at work.
On the other hand, if the office environment is like twostix describes above, then going to work would be debilitating. You would be better off at home. That being said, I have never worked in a place like that, probably because I have only ever worked one week in an office in the CBD.
I’m 90% with Twostix on this.
Yes, but, 1) there are other people in a person’s life beside their ‘colleagues’; and 2) there are personality types that don’t really need a group of others to be healthy. In fact, in the recently invented world of “at work” (meaning, away from kith and kin), mental health problems have probably increased.
It depends on the enterprise too. School teachers in the US – God love them – basically wanted to get away from the children they hate and semi-retire to zoom. That was obviously ridiculous.
Yes, mandating is itself wrong.
Rather, I would say that it is workers of an organisation, meant to be working collectively, who should themselves be insisting on being together in the one place. Solidarity, and all that. At times, this will no doubt require effort, time, and money. Yet the alternative is to be seduced into giving power to simulation over the real. One’s very own existent self comes to be a simulation in something like the zoom process, for the existent self is denied and comes to be transformed into the principal role of a simulated figment performing on a screen – this figment all the while amenable to being observed by the very oneself who is no longer the real existent.
The event here (life) is simulacra.
Analogously so also in transgenderisms, eg, and across the board, for when simulation attempts to overpower the real body of child or adult it does so to overpower both body and soul, given the human unity.
Who is it more important to interact with? A group of people you only assemble with because you perform a function with and most of whom you will largely not interact with once they or you move on, or your family and friends?
I’ll be spending lunch at my youngest son’s school next week thanks to WFH. That means a shed load more to me than spending an hour each way in traffic to have the same conversations I can have over Zoom. All my actual teammates are interstate anyway.
Perhaps the lesson, Franx, is that employers have a duty of care to ensure that staffers who need the company of others aren’t zoomed to a screen-delineated oblivion. What I’ve heard over the past few weeks, however, is that prickly-headed imbecile Jeff Kennett lecturing and hectoring home-workers – basically treating them like the new un-vaxxed – and TV anchors and columnists (earning hundreds of thousands per annum to bloviate) joining the chorus.
How about we treat people with respect and listen to what individuals need?
Now, I agree CBDs are a problem but, let’s be honest, they were in decline anyway. I remember the (understandable) lamentations about the death of the Sydney club and music scene, for example – which was caused by wowser governments and councils endlessly ‘cracking down’ on something – and that was long before the ‘pandemic.’
What twostix said. Mrs Eyrie and I have worked together from home for 40+ years. We choose the people we want to associate with when not working.
Who needs the energy use and pollution caused by commuting into a CBD only to sit at a desk with a terminal on it? Surrounded by people of which more than a few will be worthless deadshits.
I get the twostix approach and, sure, there’s definitely some of that.
But at the same time, most people are -horrible- at working from home. They might feel they are getting work done, but they are impossible to contact and spend afar too much time on Zoom calls that only need a 5 to 10 second discussion over the cubicle wall or back of the chair. Individually they get the work they are given done, but that’s because it’s next to impossible to get them to contribute to emergent group efforts.
Productivity is garbage at the moment.
It’s less about the workplace it seems to me and more about the structural aspects of society. (Isolation in my experience is a lovely thing more often than not.) Regarding zoom meetings, eg, although they can be an expedient, they are nevertheless not real ‘meetings’. Note how the language too has become a simulacrum in that ‘meeting’ signifies that truth which in fact is that there is no meeting. Truth is not with the real. And I would say that that issue needs sorting, especially with regards to the real and transcendent common good as distinct from a common good contingent upon, eg, safety, or convenience, or a contingent common good derived from consensus derived from compliance derived from coercion.
I would say it is better to interact with both. Working with people gives you different perspectives that you don’t get living in a bubble of like-minded souls. And perhaps many of us forget what it is like to work for a boss. It’s not always enjoyable but it teaches valuable life lessons.
Someone (forget who) made the point recently that if people wish to work from home instead of the office, their wages should be adjusted downwards accordingly.
Those despicable scumbags can count themselves exceedingly fortunate that they weren’t aborted.
What really pissed me off about corporate treatment of their staff as mere chattels was when Colesworth’s staff of checkout chicks were declared essential workers (correct) and worked through the whole pandemic and as soon as the vax came out were threatened with the sack if they didn’t take it. These are low paid workers who probably needed the job more than Mr Fark you hah and had no option but to take the jab.
A lot of these workers (in my favourite store) are ladies who would normally be considered of at least retirement age but for whatever reason are in the workforce. They are all lovely but sometimes their faces betray their tiredness and I wonder why they are not enjoying a retirement instead of working till they drop.
Thanks government and corporate bastards for the mess you have made of society that forces our elderly to work. If only they could enjoy being at home.
A pox on all their houses. I hope they choke on their G&T’s or their lattes or snort too much coke in one hit and suffocate.
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It’s not something I have to deal with but some family members do, and I can’t imagine how difficult it is, sitting through multiple superfluous acknowledgements, and Pride Months and now pro Voice propaganda and all the other utter progressive crap that working for any large organisation entails, and that’s whether you Zoom in or attend in person.
None of which was normal in the workplace ten years ago.
If one can work from home then there is no reason for them to be forced to have a vaccine to work.
Petros – you would think so, but no.
It’s not about health, you see. It’s about being (made) compliant.
The VCAA which oversees examinations for the Vic education department would not in 2021 employ examiners to assess students’ papers online and working from their own home computers unless the examiners provided evidence of being doubly jabbed, and then some. I think they reversed the decision in 2022. Dictatorships are nothing if not arbitrary. And mad. And vicious. At home or abroad.
Another thought, if these CBD offices don’t get leases then the industry super funds will be in trouble.
Petros.
Nah, the bruvvas will just lean on the Liars to increase subsidies on “too cheap to meter” ruinables to cover the gap.
Funny moment the other day, one of the office days so naturally the SLT now with a captive audience force us to all go to meeting rooms across AU/NZ to have a big group “chat”, all connected on zoom of course. So there we sit in the office in meeting rooms on our laptops on zoom.
Now when at home you just work through this bs but they’re onto that and do it on office days now. Anyway, we all settle in, ready for an afternoon in the office of doing no work, super woke CTO starts by explaining because there’s so many people all over he would dispense with the welcome to country, the weird nz welcome thing, (on zoom) and just say welcome everyone.
Shoot me in the fecking brain.
Anyway they then spent the arvo explained that the disaster that is the offshoring to india exercise is going to be fixed by doubling their commitment to offshoring to India.
To John’s point, this is why nobody cares anymore, because corporate world is an absolute farce writ large.
Terms are acceptable.
Except that’s the problem, it has nothing to do with money does it. It’s about control, obedience and who’s in charge and who can force you to do anything no matter how dumb. Which is why nobody ever offers worknfrom home forq lower wages as terms, even as they send jobs to shit countries where they have no idea who is working orbhow much and ultimately ends up costing way, way more.
But you white man had better sit in your chair.
Also not sure how long it’s been since some people have been to an “office” but there hasn’t been ‘cubicles’ for nearly 20 years now.
It’s one big primary school classroom, if you’re lucky you get a divider between you and the person sitting opposite you.
And in many places you don’t even get your own desk anymore, you book one each day.
The trick right now is to book meeting rooms with a couple of people and work in them all day. Home away from home.