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Karen Andrews is literally Australia’s Aung San Suu Kyi.
There’s a lot I could say about Karen Andrews, none of it complimentary. In a Morrison government of dismal performers, she was one of the star poor performers.
As for her allegation about some colleague “heavy breathing” on her, whilst it might be true, I find it laughable, because apart from the fact that whoever did it was drunk, he’d also have to be desperate.
Andrews is looking for attention, and like a lot of weasel Liberals, she decides to reveal it to Annabel Crabb on the ABC, who was up to her neck in the Porter imbroglio. A Liberal with a modicum of integrity and decency would have nothing to do with Crabb.
I’m calling total bullshit.
She says an unnamed MP breathed on the back of her neck during Question Time.
That means it’s on video. Let’s see it.
“I’m calling total bullshit.”
I think you’re right. As I wrote above, she’s looking for attention.
I’d like to get Katie Hopkins’ take on this! LOL.
I’m surprised she didn’t say “his hot, heavy breath burned my slender neck”.
Crabb looked positively delighted at the revelation (that she was seeking).
An entirely silly creature.
Remember when the media published fake naked photos of Pauline Hanson?
Feminists were nowhere to be seen.
Ahahahahaha.
I’m surprised she didn’t say “his hot, heavy breath burned my slender neck”.
LOL
Crabb looked positively delighted at the revelation (that she was seeking).
Of course, such salacious bullshit suits Crabb’s narrative. Meanwhile, I’ve never ever heard Crabb express any interest in a certain rape allegation.
The Heavy Breathing incident was the lead story on ABC radio 10am news today! Annabel Crabb’s TV program!
Cassie of Sydney, Yes, Crabb was involved in the Porter story. Milligan filmed Jo Dyer at Crabb’s home. Crabb also wrote a story in March 2021 which included a disclaimer: “The author knew the complainant through debating in South Australia in the 1980s and 1990s, but was not a recipient of any relevant disclosures from her.” Crabb also did a zoom with Milligan in Nov 2020 which commenced with…
“AC: I’ve known Louise for many years. Like me she is a person who went to law school and did a law degree and an arts degree and then just sneakily slipped out the side door and went and got a cadetship to be a journalist and found their true love and calling….
…She is a punchy investigative reporter in print and in television, she is a multitalented broadcaster and writer but the thing that is truly remarkable about Louise is that she has the biggest heart of anyone I know in journalism, I think. And she never ever hides it away. She puts it on the line with every story that she investigates. I’ve seen her at work, the care that she takes with the vulnerable people whose stories she never ever walks by, and I don’t know anyone else in journalism who will stop and help to the degree that Louise will, it’s what I most respect about her. You know of course her work The Cardinal which is a multi-award winning book, you know of her work on the trial and accusations against George Pell, because of that she has experienced the legal system in a way that she never had before.
A legal system inflamed in her… an urge to tell the story of people who appear before cross examining barristers in court and live through the court experience, what is it to be a witness.
LM: …I am thrilled to be here. The only thing is that I wish I was there with everyone in person. Often the book events are often quite emotional events and lots of people have really personal skin in this and while those events take a lot out of me in lots of ways they also inspire me because the people I write about inspire me so much. Yes, I do wear my heart on my sleeve and I am a bit of a cry baby sometimes but you can really feel the stories that you do, and people know you care and they know that you are gonna look after them. It’s sometimes a tiring way to be but a very rewarding way to be.
AC: It’s made me a bit of a cry baby, Lou, but you are also one of the most resistant to pressure and stress and intimidation of any journo I know. I wonder if you could start us off by… giving us a quick blast of the prologue… what does it feel like to be a witness in an aggressive court encounter?”
“SydGal says:
12 September, 2023 at 8:57 pm”
Thanks SydGal, reading that made my flesh crawl. Crabb, along with the likes of Tingle and Nilligan, make me shudder. I regard these women as not just sinister, but evil.
I missed you at CPAC….Lizzie rushed in to tell me you were outside and I went out looking for you but missed you.
Next time, and we should set aside a time to meet. I also go to CIS, IPA and Ramsay functions.
That’s a fancy way of saying the accusations she retailed were proven to be lies.
Thanks, Cassie of Sydney, that Milligan/Crabb zoom was really appalling. Yes – we must meet next time! I was glad to have met Lizzie.
The other thing that came out in the zoom was Milligan’s story about her first husband. She was talking about Richter’s cross examination of her. I tried to transcribe it here:
AC: You were a witness of first report for some of the complainants in one of the Pell cases, so you were the target for the opening of that defence really. If you could be discredited then that would set up the case for the defence very well. So you were up against Robert Richter… and your account of that day in the dock is incredibly harrowing.. partly I think because you were so hyper-alert to defend the people who had confided in you but also you were thinking all the time of how much worse this would be if you were in fact a survivor undertaking that cross examination.
LM: Absolutely, and I have to say after going through that experience I mean it was a politicizing moment for me, I can’t put it any other way. It was so intense, it went all day and he never let up for a second and you know I totally understand that he had to prove his client’s case beyond reasonable doubt. His client had the presumption of innocence and he had to give him a robust defence….but I just felt that there was in my opinion from what I saw, a lack of decency, courtesy and just humanity in what happened.
Now I understand that as a journalist, I was pretty much roadkill… I remember being told beforehand by someone who had met with him that the key to getting this case up was to destroy Louise Milligan. And I don’t know whether he told this person knowing that they might tell me and it was a way of trying to rattle me or not, but he had my role in the whole thing as so much more central than it was. I was there because I was the first person that one of the men who had made a complaint about the Cardinal had told in the world, so the witness of first complaint but that soon just expanded into trying to mine all of the other men that I had met their cases for reasonable doubts.
But you know it was just relentless like never letting me finish an answer unless it was a ‘yes’ or ‘no’. And you know at times it moved into quite sexist territory. There was a time when he tried to accuse me of flirting with a complainant who was a pretty vulnerable man and who I was just being kind to and to be honest, the messages that he was referring to were no different to the sort of messages that I would send to a mother or a woman who was a rape victim or any person that I was trying to be kind to. It was kindness and the fact that I was reduced to this sexualised stereotype I found really inappropriate.
I felt completely alone and it was very, very rare that the Crown Prosecutor actually intervened. He did intervene at times and at one point he referred to the Evidence Act improper questioning which is there to stop barristers from going too far with witnesses in the witness box. I felt the tone all the way through was belittling and harassing…. It was like an out of body experience… I really tried to keep a courtroom face…. I tried not to focus too much on him and if I had an issue to address it to the Magistrate.. He was always trying to get a ‘yes’ or a ‘no’ and there were so many questions that weren’t best answered by a ‘yes’ or a ‘no’…. And I would sort of turn to the Magistrate and say I’m terribly sorry your Honour but this question is not best answered by a ‘yes’ or a ‘no’ and that would just drive him completely bananas.
And there was a section where for 90 minutes I was drilled on the finer points of anal anatomy – and it was this big thing about the anus, sphincter and rectum and I don’t know, like, I went to a Catholic school, I don’t even know what the difference between those are (laughs)… I’ve never thought about those things before and he just had this sort of cantankerous school master tone and that I was like this errant sort of naughty school girl. That was the way that I was treated all the way through as a professional, a journalist as someone who you know has a law degree and has for a long time, covered courts as a journalist, and had the whole ABC behind me, had senior management of the ABC in the room and also my publisher, Louise Adler, and my friends and my family and I didn’t have a substance abuse problem, you know, that came from my childhood trauma. I didn’t have any of those things and yet I was so wrung out by this experience. I remember saying this… to a barrister who later represented me and who I interviewed for the book as he had done these cases, that it was the worst day of my life apart from when I identified my first husband’s body in the morgue. That seems really extreme but it’s true. It was so awful.”
Dr Cody said … “It’s really important to listen to the experience of women in parliament and to be responsive to that.”
Assuming that the ‘experience’ is the same as the actuality.
And if the two are to be conflated, the MP can be ‘responsive’ by apologising for the ‘experience’ as distinct from apologising for the act.
And yet I suspect that such madness would be thought progress.
Louise Milligan being kind and honest to a man, taking the piss, surely?
I can honestly say that I start to ‘breath heavy’ when I see most of these childish nappy clad children masquerading as so called politicians in their parliaments.
Man the whole women in parliament experiment is going well isn’t it.
“I don’t know, like, I went to a Catholic school, I don’t even know what the difference…”
Mature-age Milligan pretending to be a wide-eyed innocent, fresh from a Catholic school education. A dishonest individual.
Stan Grant is fortunate in receiving feminists’ protection.
Similarly, Noel Pearson was protected.
Recall the attacks on Pauline Hanson (that included a feminist writing/sniping in The Australian about her hair colour, her make-up, her ‘strine’, her small business, her home city…working class Ipswich). Australian feminism dealing with an outsider.
This male of interest would have to lean forward almost 3 feet over their little desk as well as move aside the microphone directly infront of them then somehow the female would have to be on a booster seat for the nape to be in line with the top of the seat/desk to receive the CO2 love offering.
Andrews should be drug tested or committed.
There’s a chair in there
A neck breather as well
The people are insane
With bullshit to tell
Open wide, they’re drunk inside
It’s a play school
I’m sure this fact comforted Cardinal Pell during his time in prison.
A bit naive to imagine that Canberra and especially Parliament has not had its share of men who scare women. Having done a lot of maintenance work there in the past I was often amazed at the behaviour. I assumed it was because they’re away from home. Things that were ignored or covered up in the olden days simply don’t work and I think both major parties have problems. It seems to be on obvious reason why young people are deserting the major parties.
Milligan has such care and concern that her narcissistic, virtue-signalling account of her first encounter with the Pell complainant at the Coburg RSL would enable anyone capable of basic Google search to identify him in three minutes. Pass the sick bags please.