You’re gonna need a bigger Bushmaster

Today’s New York Times map of the war shows Ukraine has made zero progress and cannot win.

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33 Responses to You’re gonna need a bigger Bushmaster

  1. Petros says:

    Battle of Kursk 2.0.

  2. Tony Taylor says:

    When do they all pack up and go home?

  3. NFA says:

    When do they all pack up and go home?

    European Union Leadership Announced New Lebensraum Expansion Policy

    FYI that link is to a (dot)su registered website

  4. Franx says:

    It makes one weep to know that Assange has been imprisoned for his well-founded judgements upon the ‘transnational security elite’.

  5. C.L. says:

    The Times’ decision to publish this map (front page story) is being seen as something of a break-out move. It starkly illustrates the mendacity of almost all Ukraine war coverage in the Western press. When you hear about a ‘breakthrough’ or a ‘village’ being re-taken, it’s a con. Those blue ‘gains’ are mostly Russian tactical withdrawals anyway.

    ➡️ Gray Connolly:

  6. Petros says:

    The Twitter link quotes the NYT as saying that both sides have launched offensives this year. Not really true of the Russians. They are playing the defensive game.

  7. Boambee John says:

    That map looks like the one in Blackadder showing movement on the Western Front.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Ukraine wins by not losing.
    Russia loses by not winning.
    Meanwhile the guys die.
    Only Putin can stop it.

  9. C.L. says:

    Ukraine wins by not losing.

    The premise – that they haven’t already lost – is a stretch, Bruce. They will never re-take Crimea (which was never theirs anyway) or the annexed territories. Their military has been completely destroyed. To re-capture all of that land would require a massive and permanent air cover operation and maybe 200,000 men – deployed from the US and/or Europe. That, in turn, would entail operations against Russia proper. This is not going to happen.

  10. C.L. says:

    Hersh’s latest on Substack (quoting his intell sources):

    “The war is over. Russia has won. There is no Ukrainian offensive anymore, but the White House and the American media have to keep the lie going. The truth is if the Ukrainian army is ordered to continue the offensive, the army would mutiny. The soldiers aren’t willing to die any more, but this doesn’t fit the B.S. that is being authored by the Biden White House.”

  11. Jannie says:

    Zelensky’s days are numbered. He is a convenient scapegoat, His Greek island mansion will be a comfort in retirement as he contemplates the 400000+ men and boys he has fed into the meat grinder.

  12. Alfonso says:

    Ukraine can only lose. They’ve had huge damage to their country and lost much of their primary infrastructure. Ports are stuffed and they’ve taken huge losses. Russia has invaded and effectively won. Next question: is it Poland or one of the Stans?

  13. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    The premise – that they haven’t already lost – is a stretch, Bruce.

    Nah. Read about the Italo-Greek War. On the other hand you are right, the Ukies lost day one. The only way for them to win was for Vlad to not invade. But they will each take a Russian or two into the afterlife before they go out. With knives, or teeth, if necessary. Putin did not understand how much Ukrainians hate Russians, because he was fooled by his fake KGB version of history.

    In wargaming we have minor victories, substantive victories and ultimate victories. Currently it’s looking like a minor victory to the Ukies and a substantive loss to the Russians. But as I said the only person can end this is Putin, but I doubt he can do so and live. Shoigu admitted yesterday they expect the war will continue into 2025, which for Russia is catastrophic.

  14. Jannie says:

    BoN this is already catastrophic for the Ukrainians. They have been feeding half trained conscripts into the cannons. It is a crime against the Ukrainian people to mislead and force them to die. For nothing but to make it worse. It makes General Douglas Haig look like Boy Scout.

  15. Fat Tony says:

    BoN – did some mean Russian girls in primary school beat you up & take your lunch money??

    Seriously though, I think Putin is in the process of draining the USA and NATO of their supply of weapons/ordnance and upskilling the Russian Army at the same time. This is in preparation for the coming NATO-Russia war.

    Do you think the constant shelling of Eastern Ukraine (ethnic Russians) since 2014/5 by the Nazi Ukes (Azov) with the deaths of 14000 civilians was a righteous act?

    Have you actually done some research on Zelensky to determine the type of person he is? Do you actually support this type of person?

  16. C.L. says:

    This was never a war between Russia and Ukraine. It was always a proxy war between Russia and the US. Putin read it that way and everything we’ve learned about the longer war (from 2014) has proved that analysis correct.

    The Americans thought that sanctions plus endless money and materiel would win this for them in a few months. Instead, Russia has grown richer and the “counter-offensive” has become a historic debacle to rival Afghanistan.

    I understand the cope behind the thesis that Ukraine ‘wins’ by not being wholly liquidated as an ‘independent’ nation (albeit one owned by BlackRock and the CIA). But unless “every inch” of territory is taken back (per Zelensky) and “regime change” effected (per Biden), Putin has bested North America and Western Europe. That is a humiliation for the annals and the latter only have themselves to blame for it.

  17. Fat Tony says:

    It actually looks like Zelensky (and his puppeteers) want to rid Ukraine of all military-age males – for what purpose??

  18. Buccaneer says:

    Did the Americans think anything about this war than it’s an opportunity to poke the Russians, distract from the Afghanistan disaster and provide a total money pit for the money go round that appears to be us politics?

    Sanctions just seem to be a means to an end.

  19. Petros says:

    The only Ukrainians that hated the Russians were the Nazi ones in the west. The rest were friends. They understood that Stalin caused the Holodomor, not the average Russian in the street. They preferred speaking Russian, too, like Zelensky did. It is a richer language because of the extensive, great, Russian literature. BTW a colleague told me that she attended Ukrainian scouts in her youth in Sydney. Funny how there was an ethnic version of scouts for that group.

  20. Eyrie says:

    BoN – did some mean Russian girls in primary school beat you up & take your lunch money??

  21. Franx says:

    But as I said the only person can end this is Putin

    On the one, that would be so if it were assumed that it is Putin’s war and not a war that is the favourite of the US, the EU and the very silent UK.
    On the other hand, that would be so if Russian military might prevailed.
    There alternative ways to ending ‘this’.

  22. Tel says:

    If the Western countries stop providing vast amounts of milirary and civillian aid to the Uktaine then the Kyiv government would collapse very quickly … probably within a few weeks. They are at the stage where they are completely dependent on foreign support, and the logical conclusion is that Kyiv must continue to deliver ongoing conflict and satisfy NATO, else the money dries up. They got themselves into the business of sacrificing people to a foreign media machine … so a few politicians can claim a policy win.

    Yanking foreign support would certainly end this, but it would also result in at least some period of chaos and poverty afterwards. The Western politicians would need to admit they screwed the pooch and arms industry campaign donations might not be as generous.

  23. jupes says:

    But they will each take a Russian or two into the afterlife before they go out.

    Bruce, seriously mate, you are delusional.

  24. rosie says:

    I suppose the lust for Russian blood explains why so many Ukrainians of conscription age have fled the Ukraine.
    Either that, or they don’t have any teeth.

  25. Tel says:

    The only Ukrainians that hated the Russians were the Nazi ones in the west. The rest were friends.

    There’s a very long history of ethnic squabbles in that area. The Kyivan Rus were themselves a conquering race … the word “Rus” means what we would call “Norse” … they were Vikings who decided to stop raiding the Slavic people and to settle in as the ruling class instead. Not a whole lot different to the Norman conquest of England.

    In the more recent Bolshevik wars of 1921, the Western side was fiercely anti-Bolshevik, and so were some of the Cossacks. The Red Army won, with the support from Moscow, but 10 years later in the 1930’s Stalin carefully executed retribution on any group of people who had shown anti-Bolshevik sentiment … the famines were not simply the result of poor planning and insane economic policy … the food was taken by force as a means to subjugate the population. Stalin’s famines were in many places, not merely the Ukrainians were suffering. It’s amazing that the New York Times was able to lie about this so effectively that Americans at the time had no idea what was going on.

    That’s why a lot of people in the Western side much preferred to be ruled from Berlin, instead of being ruled from Moscow. Neither was a good option, but for those people Berlin was the least worst option at the time.

  26. rosie says:

    Anecdotal but one working class Ukrainian acquaintance of mine has a hatred of Jews, not Russians, inherited from family experiences of the Holomor, Jews being synonymous with Communists who orchestrated the confiscation of food.
    Clearly I disagree with them.

  27. C.L. says:

    On this day in 1941, Einsatzgruppen and Ukrainian Auxiliary Police murdered 33,771 Jews at Babi Yar in Kiev.

  28. rosie says:

    Absolutely no doubt that many Ukrainians participated, with great enthusiasm, in the Holocaust.

  29. Petros says:

    Stalin also displaced peoples that could be a problem because of potential foreign loyalties e.g. the Volga Germans and the Black Sea Greeks. Here’s one of the descendants.

  30. Petros says:

    And a Greek one.

  31. Bazinga says:

    This war ends with a Trump victory in the election.

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