Who’s going to tell him?

No, that wasn’t Audie Murphy risking his neck for glory atop the Reichstag on 2 May 1945.

To President Trump and anybody else: if we pull the plug on Ukraine, that’s 10 times worse than Afghanistan. To stop funding Ukraine is a death sentence for Taiwan. Putin will keep going. You missed all of WWII if you don’t know how this movie ends.”

– Sen. Lindsey Graham and NATO are the one who kept going in Europe, of course
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34 Responses to Who’s going to tell him?

  1. Lee says:

    Putin will keep going.

    Sure he will.

    No evidence of that.

  2. NFA says:

    I wont get my… satisfaction from the criminal industrial complex.

    I can reach across the aisle and share the squillions.

    Stop picking on Joe… the Puerto, Jewish, Black man that funds peaceful Iran.

    Those Make America Great Again freaks are not my sort of people.

  3. Jannie says:

    The War in Ukraine is bad news for Taiwan. To Taiwan, it shows that their chief ally is not reliable and easily distracted. They have also probably worked out that the US armed forces have gone girly tranny gay and are not fit for combat.

    But the Chinese will probably just wait for Taiwan to fall out of the tree, like a ripe plum.

  4. Tel says:

    Putin will keep going.

    All the way to Taiwan? Seems unlikely.

    I’ve already explained that the longer the war of attrition goes on in the Ukraine, the stronger China’s position becomes. The guy who can stand to one side while the others fight will be the guy who conserves resources and sweeps up at the end. That was how the USA did so well in both world wars.

    But the Chinese will probably just wait for Taiwan to fall out of the tree, like a ripe plum.

    At this rate, yes … the USA is weakening itself and probably more internally divided than ever. Another year of government debt blowouts and massive military budgets will only make those worse. Russia and China have been forced to work together, and although they don’t like each other, they aren’t stupid people … China understands that they cannot afford for Russia to be defeated therefore they will supply Russia with what it needs … Russia has the hydrocarbons that China needs.

    Washington has successfully unified their rivals in the dumbest possible way. Biden was the best thing China could have hoped for … all that bribe money turned out to be finally worth it.

  5. Buccaneer says:

    The corrupt Biden regime has placed the Ukrainian military aged population in a perverse kind of serfdom. It remains to be seen what exactly they think they are going to achieve from this or why the dumber republicans are supporting what has always been extreme folly. Given the exposure of the Biden family pay for play schemes some of them specifically involving Ukraine, it will be intensely embarrassing for the US if it comes out that the whole enterprise was a huge grift for the Bidens. No amount of but we wos protecting them, will gloss over Biden risking nuclear war for personal gain.

  6. Franx says:

    But the Chinese will probably just wait for Taiwan to fall out of the tree, like a ripe plum

    It’s their tree.

  7. Grant says:

    Some big assumptions in the thread here. US military is extremely well funded and has demonstrated its technical and logistical capability on occasion recently. China’s military is deeply corrupt, as recent events demonstrate, and would likely suffer the same failures as Putin’s criminal empire inflicted on Russian troops sent into Ukraine. Taiwan, is very well prepared to make life difficult for the PLA, which would also have to defend its own coast in easy range of Taiwan.

  8. Pommy Al says:

    Grant obviously lives on planet ABC

  9. Buccaneer says:

    The US budget is dependent on the constant issuing of treasury bonds and the reserve currency status of the US dollar. The well funded US war machine is the most vulnerable in terms of funding that it has ever been as US government spending is out of control and unsustainable. The chinese know that every person they send over the US border, operative or otherwise adds to this spending quandary.

  10. Alfonso says:

    Buccaneer: maybe you haven’t looked, but the Chinese financial situation is stressed. On top, Xi has had to see two defence ministers he appointed charged with corruption and the leadership of its icbm forces also arrested for milking the budget. US debt is clearly unsustainable at current rate of accumulation but US defence budget and assets are in robust condition compared to anyone else. US weakness is the clowns now occupying its political system.

  11. Rabz says:

    US military … has demonstrated its technical and logistical capability on occasion recently

    The withdrawal from Afghanistan being a standout recent example.

  12. Alfonso says:

    Rabz: a decision of president trump, not the military. Hardly relevant to the question of whose military would prevail in conventional US v China or Russia conflict?

  13. Alfonso says:

    NFA: US military swears allegiance to the Constitution. Trump required that it accept dictatorial direction. The idea that he could order them to turn on the public is hideous and ridiculous. Clearly the reason he turned on Kelly and Milley, both of whom he appointed, is because they knew their duty. (He did not.)

  14. Tel says:

    Rabz: a decision of president trump, not the military.

    You think that Trump was standing there telling each squad exactly which hill to drop off extra Taliban equipment?

    Maybe get to grips with the idea that the President provides the strategic decision while the military executes those orders, and the purpose of the Generals is to get that job done in the best way possible … but in this case they screwed it up … most likely deliberately in an act of destructive spite. If the military can’t do a relatively simple withdrawl, with plenty of advance notice, and not under heavy fire at the time … then not one of those Generals should still be employed.

  15. NFA says:

    Alfonso says:
    4 October, 2023 at 9:06 pm

    NFA: US military swears allegiance to the Constitution. Trump required that it accept dictatorial direction. The idea that he could order them to turn on the public is hideous and ridiculous. Clearly the reason he turned on Kelly and Milley, both of whom he appointed, is because they knew their duty. (He did not.)

    Sure Alfonso…

  16. NFA says:

    Alfonso…

    What Constitution do the vaunted US military swear allegiance to?

  17. NFA says:

    Alfonso…

    How come Milley was phoning it in to China?

  18. Alfonso says:

    NFA: last I looked the US had only one. Also: McMaster and Mattus also ran up against Trump’s abuse of his authority. Trump abused veterans regularly. Starting with McCain. Remarkably, the man kept appointing people who found they could not work with him. Probably because he’d like to be a despot.

  19. Alfonso says:

    Tel: trump set a timeline. That was the issue. It’s all public info.

  20. Rabz says:

    In what bizarre parallel universe was the US military’s withdrawal from Afghanistan a demonstration of its technical and logistical capability?

  21. Alfonso says:

    Rabz: nice move. Conflating two different points. I take it you’re still in junior school debating class?

  22. Rabz says:

    Alfonso – you are an idiot.

    I have made the same point in both comments. You made the absurd statement that the US military had recently demonstrated its technical and logistical capability.

    I cited a very obvious recent example where it clearly had not.

    Give it a rest.

  23. Buccaneer says:

    Alfonso says:
    4 October, 2023 at 12:00 pm
    Buccaneer: maybe you haven’t looked, but the Chinese financial situation is stressed. On top, Xi has had to see two defence ministers he appointed charged with corruption and the leadership of its icbm forces also arrested for milking the budget. US debt is clearly unsustainable at current rate of accumulation but US defence budget and assets are in robust condition compared to anyone else. US weakness is the clowns now occupying its political system.

    How would you know how stressed the Chinese are, all their data is a pack of lies, not just the financial ones either.

    Also, the Chinese adhere to the unrestricted warfare doctrine. In those terms, do you truly think that US defence budget and US government budget are completely disconnected?

    Are you somehow suggesting the US is currently in a position to out-produce China from an industrial capacity perspective?

  24. Buccaneer says:

    Yeah, US servicemen really hate Trump

  25. Alfonso says:

    Buccaneer: you can look at non Chinese sources you know. Like the IMF. There’s actually quite a lot. If you wanted to know.

  26. Alfonso says:

    Buccaneer: just not the ones Trump appointed to key roles

  27. Buccaneer says:

    Do try to think for yourself, where do you think the IMF gets its data on China? The State Statistical Bureau of China of course.

    But you didn’t bother to find out, did you. Explains quite a lot really.

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