Voice headquarters breaks glass and presses the Biden button

Attention AEC: This is a shameless ploy to disenfranchise voters. Step in whenever you’re ready.
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39 Responses to Voice headquarters breaks glass and presses the Biden button

  1. NFA says:

    Dan the Man got the votes… easy peasy

  2. Buccaneer says:

    I notice they waited until after voting started to pull this stunt. If the aec had any integrity, they would rule out ticks as a way of voting and cite this flyer as the reason.

  3. Rafiki says:

    From the day the AEC said that a tick would be a valid Yes, I suspected that the slogan “just tick the box to vote Yes” would emerge. This statement is far more deceptive and deceitful, suggesting that a voter should use a tick or a cross, rather than ‘yes’or ‘no’.
    I also suspect that there is nothing to be done by way of legal remedy. It’s hard to see a cause of action, and even if there is, a court – including in particular the High Court – would find a way to avoid granting a remedy.

  4. Buccaneer says:

    It demonstrates, vividly, how no one can trust anything any of the Yes proponents say. Yesterday Frank Brennan bagged the way the campaign had been held and the construct of the question but still will vote yes. In other words, the proponents care more about the perception of virtue than actual virtue.

  5. Baba says:

    TheirABC will be all over this.

  6. twostix says:

    Making us write ” no” instead of the age old cross is itself disenfranchising.

    Did they ever even attempt to give an excuse?

  7. B'wana Sahul says:

    I’m not totally into this, but, the tick/cross, yes/no imbroglio appears to stem from only one box being available to take an answer.

    If the delicate geniuses at the AEC and APH put two boxes on the ballot to accept an indication of intent then that might just help.

  8. Jay says:

    The post seems to have disappeared

  9. B'wana Sahul says:

    The Parliament can alter Form B of Shedule 1 of the Referendum (Machinery Provisions) Act 1984, to include two box’s

    It could sail through second or third reading and be law by the end of the day.

    I can’t be bothered to find the Hansard of this courageous decision for the original Bill, but I imagine it is quite stupid.

  10. Charles says:

    Apparently it has been deleted. Did anyone get a screenshot, or describe what this is about?

  11. C.L. says:

    Yes23 has deleted their illegal ad.

    Charles, it featured a mock-up of a ballot but with the question, ‘do you want things to stay as they are’ (paraphrasing) with a big X next to it. Beneath that was the question, ‘do you want everything to be better’ (paraphrasing) with a big tick next to it. An X will not be counted as valid but Yes23 was trying to pick up some low-info votes by encouraging an X for the status quo.

  12. C.L. says:

    If the delicate geniuses at the AEC and APH put two boxes on the ballot to accept an indication of intent then that might just help.

    This was obviously scotched by somebody for a very specific reason.

    And we know what that reason is.

  13. C.L. says:

    Confirmed: the AEC intervened to have the ad removed:

    https://twitter.com/PaulineHansonOz/status/1709333776407597489

    Trust Albo and Marcia with a Constitutional re-write, though.

    LOL.

  14. Buccaneer says:

    It’s a modest change, they said, no one needs to see the legislation that the constitutional change will underwrite before they vote, they said, it will change indigenous people’s lives for the better they said, with no actual evidence or detail, it’s only and advisory body and parliament can control it, but we won’t release all the legal advice, they said.

    This stunt was clear evidence.

    Tricky, dishonest, deceptive, divisive, racist garbage. Worst PM in history by a country mile. Shame on the media that have supported Aussie Apartheid.

  15. Christine says:

    It truly is “shame on the media”.

    Today volunteers are pressing their Yes paraphernalia on pre-poll voters, with the pleasant command: “You should read this”.
    I don’t see many being influenced by these tactics.
    Timid people might accept what’s pressed on them, but go in to the booth and still vote No.

  16. rosie says:

    Wow Yes are really playing dirty with that tick and cross.
    Still it probably opens the door to a challenge should yes get up.

  17. Buccaneer says:

    Shame on the ALP, Albanese said this should have been sorted 122 years ago, no one stopped to ask why the ALP, the only current political party that existed back then was doing that prevented them from ensuring what they call would have been justice for indigenous Australians. Well, the answer is that when they got their taste of power via the minority party in a joint government, their first item of business was the white Australia policy.

  18. Lee says:

    Ray Martin gets very nasty and abusive towards No supporters.

    And Albo praises him for it:

    Albanese praises Ray Martin’s ‘Dinosaurs and Dickheads’ speech against NO vote.

  19. Lee says:

    Is there any grubby low the Yes campaign won’t stoop to?

  20. C.L. says:

    Dickheads and dinosaurs…

    Pictured: Albanese and Martin at the Marrickville speech.

  21. jupes says:

    Ray Martin says ‘d**kheads and dinosaurs’ will vote No

    Well, the Yes campaign tried abuse, celebrity endorsement, guilt tripping and ‘misinformation’. None of it worked, so now they’ve come full circle and are back to abuse. They even wheeled Marcia out again to call us racists one more time.

    Of course, they still have one more arrow in the quiver. Electoral fraud.

  22. NFA says:

    C.L. says:
    4 October, 2023 at 11:50 am

    Dickheads and dinosaurs…

    Pictured: Albanese and Martin at the Marrickville speech.

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…

    I thought it was Graham Lindsay behind “The Greatest Prime Minister in their western world”.

  23. NFA says:

    Of course, they still have one more arrow in the quiver. Electoral fraud.

    I know nothing, I see nothing, I hear nothing.

    Their abc may as well post the winning referendum counts now… mind you they will be close in some areas but ‘huge’ yes margins in ‘enlightened’ electorates.

  24. Fat Tony says:

    Of course, they still have one more arrow in the quiver. Electoral fraud.

    It’s the one thing I’m worried about – and considering I don’t know anyone voting yes…
    I wouldn’t put it past them.

  25. rosie says:

    The AEC admitted on X that double votes get counted.
    They always have, because in the past they have been numerically too few to matter.
    Still it could easily be construed as an invitation.

  26. jupes says:

    Still it could easily be construed as an invitation.

    There is no other way to look at it. Government has backed the voice. Legal groups have backed the voice. It’s pretty obvious which side the AEC is on. Nothing will happen to anyone who votes multiple times, especially since it would be hard to prove without voter ID.

  27. Buccaneer says:

    They can invalidate a vote if there are enough double votes, I’m guessing that might happen with No in the majority but probably not with yes

  28. Rockdoctor says:

    The AEC has handled this woefully from the start. They should have walked back from the shambles tick ok but cross not to all but yes/no are invalid. However didn’t.

    The tweet with the vote early vote often, yes campaign’s disinformation campaign like the tweet discussed above and those signs. These should have been stamped out at once not reactively after journalists like Rukshan or Panahi got a hold of it. AEC have been very flat footed, they would have been tipped off well before the journalists megaphone started broadcasting. Why, rank incompetence again?

    As for the Yes campaign, Dean Parkin. Another suburbanite claiming aboriginality, his CV on Linkedin a few weeks ago was very unremarkable. However I’d like to hear more about this guy, he seems to be well versed in these gutter tactics and has involvement in other far left wing causes. Gut feeling tells me there’s more to this man than meets the eye.

  29. Rabz says:

    Ticks and crosses are informal votes.

    Why is this so difficult to understand, especially for the corrupt unprofessional dunderheads at the ALPEC?

  30. SydGal says:

    On the ground across 4 booths in Sydney. We are thin on ground but doing our best. Up against 8/9 yes volunteers (5 men) in one booth. Two of the men kept moving their A frames in front of Jacinta/Warren corflute. 3 times!! Today one lady was telling the public to “vote for truth, goodness and to Close The Gap” and “for a good conscience”. I think Climate Change was also mentioned at some point.

    Yes had AEC coloured purple corflutes on the path, AEC Supervisor not interested as it was “outside his jurisdiction”. Escalated and purple corflutes moved an hour later.

    Some bullying by men. Apparently they “have to bully to get the job done”. Yesterday a female no volunteer at a nearby site was called a racist C and told to F off as a man entered and left a polling booth. I’ve been greeted by women with “Don’t be hateful”. Some horrendous times. But the public generally has been supportive, with thumbs up, thanks for what you are doing and even a packet of snake lollies today!

  31. SydGal says:

    And elderly gent went to vote yesterday and his name had already been marked off! Some people are concerned they cannot use pen, only pencil.

  32. NFA says:

    a packet of snake lollies today!

    LOL

  33. C.L. says:

    Thank you again, SydGal, for your excellent work.

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