Can the terrorists get the media to run ‘12,000’ by the weekend?

62 Responses to Can the terrorists get the media to run ‘12,000’ by the weekend?

1. NFA says:

   11 November, 2023 at 10:11 am

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2. Franx says:

   11 November, 2023 at 10:11 am

   Well, then, all is well.
   Still, I doubt that in any and unlikely war tribunal the claim will hold that the displaced persons, leaving behind their dead, are in fact not being ethnically cleansed but are participating, willingly, in “lavishly laid-on evacuation measures.”
3. C.L. says:

   11 November, 2023 at 10:27 am

   Given that the UN is dominated by nazi Muslim exterminationists, I’m sure the fact that Israel is evacuating civilians would indeed be seen as “ethnic cleansing” by a “war tribunal.”

   Well, then, all is well.

   Not all. Terrorists murdered 14oo people. The only thing that is “well” is that the perpetrators are now being shot, blown up and starved – or captured and humiliated. Very chatty they are too, the ones in Israeli custody. Singing like frightened birds.
4. Rosie says:

   11 November, 2023 at 10:33 am

   Apparently the demographic male aged between 17 and 35 is conspicuous in it’s absence in hamas genocide propaganda.
   And as people probably know Beit Hanoun has been taken by the IDF who have reported that they have found no dead civilians there, it appears that the pre war population of 60,000 left approximately a week earlier.
   Given its proximity to the Erez crossing and the number of civilians that crossed into Israel via Erez* to take advantage on 7 October probably not surprising.
   I make that point because while there are civilian casualties the numbers appear to be inflated and we don’t know how many are from the hundreds of hamas misfires.
   It continues bizarre that people insist civilians have the ‘right’ not to leave a war zone and then complain bitterly when they are caught in the crossfire.
   *there’s video of this on the net
5. NFA says:

   11 November, 2023 at 10:56 am

   Franx,

   I’ve got this bridge to sell you.
6. Boambee John says:

   11 November, 2023 at 11:27 am

   Fyodor

   There is a spectrum of military and diplomatic solutions that don’t require the deliberate bombing of innocent civilians.

   Please inform Hamarse. They have been firing unguided rockets into populated areas of Israel for years, the ultimate means of deliberately bombing innocent civilians. The rockets are so indiscriminate that they regularly land in the Gaza Strip.

   Or do you regard all Israelis as guilty?
7. Franx says:

   11 November, 2023 at 11:44 am

   Very chatty they are too, the ones in Israeli custody. Singing like frightened birds.

   Yes, we do go in for tormenting and humiliating our enemies.
   And that, too, is a war crime. Or that’s what we say when our enemies do it.
8. Fyodor says:

   13 November, 2023 at 10:59 am

   The only ‘solution’ is that Hamas surrender, give over the hostages and repudiate its doctrinal exterminationism forever.

   Yah, wars would be so much easier if the enemy just surrendered to our will. In the real world, they don’t submit so easily.

   There is no deliberate bombing of innocent civilians in Gaza.

   At law – and pursuant to all schools of just war theory – necessary military targets can and must be eliminated to expedite the destruction of the enemy, even if this is likely to cause civilian casualties (which are not the motivation).

   Hamas have their weapons caches and terrorist bases in, under or around clinics, schools, playgrounds etc. The Allies would not have called off D-Day because the Germans were headquartered at Normandy General Hospital.

   We’ve seen deliberate IDF attacks on civilian targets, including hospitals explicitly protected under the Geneva Convention. No amount of Israeli bullshit justifies aerial bombing of hospitals. It’s deliberate and reckless endangerment of civilians.

   Proportionality in law and morality has nothing to do with number comparisons. That’s 22 year-old ABC journo stuff. The Palestinian death toll would be zero had they stopped shelling Jewish civilians day after day.

   The question of ‘innocence’ is also legitimately open to interpretation. The thesis posited by Daniel Goldhagen in Hitler’s Willing Executioners is apposite here. The executioners’ terrorism is not capable of being isolated from the willingly cultivated Jew hatred of their ‘mums and dads.’

   This final observation is historiographical, incidentally. Please don’t run with it as evidence of my (or Israel’s) endorsement of purely retributive bombing – for which there is no evidence and which is contradicted by the lavishly laid-on evacuation measures put in place by Israel.

   Proportionality is a very important principle, in law and morality. The mass-murder of civilians is not an acceptable response to Israel being attacked. Collective punishment is also another violation of the Geneva Convention.
9. Fyodor says:

   13 November, 2023 at 11:04 am

   Please inform Hamarse. They have been firing unguided rockets into populated areas of Israel for years, the ultimate means of deliberately bombing innocent civilians. The rockets are so indiscriminate that they regularly land in the Gaza Strip.

   Or do you regard all Israelis as guilty?

   Newsflash, BJ: I’m not defending Hamas’ terrorism. Pay attention.
10. Lee says:

    13 November, 2023 at 11:41 am

    We’ve seen deliberate IDF attacks on civilian targets, including hospitals explicitly protected under the Geneva Convention. No amount of Israeli bullshit justifies aerial bombing of hospitals. It’s deliberate and reckless endangerment of civilians.

    Wrong:

    https://twitter.com/ZionistFedAus/status/1722764377223520551
11. Rosie says:

    13 November, 2023 at 12:25 pm

    Someone pointed out that Gaza seems to have an excessive number of hospitals for population size.
    And boasts of 500 km of tunnels.
    All of which are always ‘somewhere else’
12. Fyodor says:

    14 November, 2023 at 7:31 am

    Wrong:

    The Zionist Federation of Australia? Really? Lots of old assertions, no current proof. Plenty of dead civilians, though.

    Pathetic.